“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” – Samuel Adams

Occupy Wall Street: What they demand

From occupywallstreet.org:
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Why not $100/hr? Where do government and business get the cash for this wage? Might such an action discourage new jobs formation? (Comments by author in italics)

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market.
This has been hotly debated and tried in various places. Government health plans do not save money. They limit access and decrease quality of care. Rationing becomes the only method of cost control—i.e., death panels.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Who would be willing to take a minimum wage job [see Demand one] when they can get “paid” the same for doing nothing?

Demand four: Free college education.
Of course. And they can get the twenty bucks an hour for hanging at bars until 3 AM and sleeping ‘til 1 PM, and mounting demonstration with even more demands.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
What alternative energy program, specifically? Solar and wind energy will never replace fossil fuels. Is there some new radically new technology that we can explore with enough money? Nuclear is the only current technology that can make a significant impact in reducing our fossil fuel use.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Another trillion? What happened t the first “stimulus.” I thought that was what that was for? Remember “shovel-ready” jobs? What assurance do we have that it will work this time?

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.
Well, there goes our plan to reduce dependence on fossil fuels. But with a trillion dollars we can have a forest and a swamp, er..wetland, in every neighborhood, even in Nevada and southern Arizona!

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
What rights are missing with the current document?

Demand nine: Open borders migration. Anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
No borders, no country. That seems to be the plan.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” [A]ll 65 trillion dollars of [debt] must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
What about the debt these idiots think the world owes them? Scratch Demands One through Ten.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Somebody’s personal grievance, I guess.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah [sic] or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
Pay-off for union support—card check by fiat

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Absolutely. Jobs for party bosses, Politburo bureaucrats, managers for the collective factories and farms, forced labor for the collective factories and farms, guards for the gulags, the list goes on and on. Utopia is at hand, comrades.

Karl Marx’s “10 Planks” to seize power and destroy freedom:
1. Abolition of Property in Land and Application of all Rents of Land to Public Purpose.
2. A Heavy Progressive or Graduated Income Tax.
3. Abolition of All Rights of Inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the Property of All Emigrants and Rebels.
5. Centralization of Credit in the Hands of the State, by Means of a National Bank with State Capital and an Exclusive Monopoly.
6. Centralization of the Means of Communication and Transport in the Hands of the State.
7. Extension of Factories and Instruments of Production Owned by the State, the Bringing Into Cultivation of Waste Lands, and the Improvement of the Soil Generally in Accordance with a Common Plan.
8. Equal Liability of All to Labor. Establishment of Industrial Armies, Especially for Agriculture.
9. Combination of Agriculture with Manufacturing Industries; Gradual Abolition of the Distinction Between Town and Country by a More Equable Distribution of the Population over the Country.
10. Free Education for All Children in Public Schools. Abolition of Children’s Factory Labor in it’s Present Form. Combination of Education with Industrial Production.

The similarities are obvious and require little comment from me. Is there any doubt what is behind this so-called movement? Joe Biden said that the OWS has a lot in common with the Tea Party. Search “Tea Party” on this website and see if you can find anything in common with this communist/anarchist mob.


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17 Responses to “Occupy Wall Street: What they demand”

  1.   On the surface, these demands are too numerous and disparate to be considered a focused and successful movement. However, below the surface, all of these demands can be joined togehter under a very simple axiom-” Eliminate the private sector and, in turn, increase and centralize the power of the federal government.”  Or simply put, take our fate and livlihoods out of our own hands and empower the central governent to control virtually every aspect of our lives.  Really, what these protestors demand is a return to the responsibilities of their childhood, with the government as the parental figure; i.e. give us an allowance, pay for our schooling, take care of our debts, and solve any problems we might encounter. The Tea Party seeks to minimize the role and size of the government, increase individual liberties and responsibilities, and grow the private sector. The Occupy group wants to increase the size and power of government and to reduce or eliminate capitalism and the private sector; both of which will ultimately result in the loss of the the Individual and their liberties. 
       The differences between the Tea Party and Occupy are stark and clear.  One is group wishes to return the country to its founding principles, the other wishes to replace our original system of government with a radical, foreign, and totalitarian one.

  2. So what are you telling us?

    If this is an “idea page,” does that mean that ideas count for nothing and none of these “ideas” will be taken into account when you idiots figure out what you really want?

    Are you saying that this “idea page” is an unauthorized representation of what you Marxist children want? Are you saying that you people can’t even figure out who’s supposed to be in charge?

    The Tea Party movement took all of about 5 minutes to put together its message. That’s because the founders did all the heavy lifting for us by crafting the greatest nation in all of history–a nation that went on to stun the world with our freedom, ingenuity, strength, prosperity and nobility for 200 years until we allowed Marxist ideology to slip in and begin derailing it all.

    The Tea Party isn’t backed by Party affiliations either. In the Tea Party groups I have helped founds, we have Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians and independents. Because the Democrat Party is almost completely sold out to anti-American Marxist ideology, most of our members are Republicans, but many Republicans don’t like us either, because they are liberals who deceptively place an “R” after their name.

    Apparenlty it is YOU who needs desperately to do some historical research. Like the original Boston Tea Party, the new Tea Party movement is fighting for a return to fair taxation, freedom from oppressive government, fiscal responsibility, and a government that respects the God-given rights of the people.

    Marxism, class envy and covetousness are diametrically opposed to the American way of life. History has demonstrated over and over and over that Marxism is not a path to greatness, but to ruin.

    If you want to return our nation to greatness, abandon this anti-American movement, get onboard with the Tea Party movement and fight for freedom.

  3. Are you saying that someone deceptively created this website and is misleading us as to what these Marxists really want?

    Are you saying that the signs we see in their hands railing against freedom, the free market, private businesses and the like were forced into their hands under duress?

    As incoherent as they may seem at times when they are actually in front of a microphone, I’m inclined to believe these anti-American goals are really what they want.

  4. So tell us what it is YOU want.  Be specific.  The Tea Party wants smaller government, fiscal responsibility and constitutional government.  Since you think I have it wrong (based on information from OCCUPYWALLSTREET.ORG), enlighten us, American girl.  What is it that you want?

    Maybe you are a Tea Party activist and just don’t know it.  That would be sweet.

  5. So, come on, Matt, enlighten us.  If I have it wrong I will happily correct my post if you would only inform me as to what this movemnet REALLY stands for.

    Mr. Ellis and I have detailed the agenda of the Tea Party  Help us out here, Matt.  We are only trying to establish common ground.

  6. Well said, monkeydriven. 

  7. Good grief, Girl!  You mindless punks are railing against those of us who simply ask what the heck your point is.  Yet you appear to have gathered for no discernable reason.
     
    You also try to compare your ill-conceived “movement” to the Tea Party, but there has not been a SINGLE Tea Party gathering where you could not approach any person there and receive a very coherent reason for their presence.
     
    You punks (that includes the older idiots) are mindless, senseless, anti-American, and in general, just plain wrong.
     
    Please, get some truth and morality in your lost heads (though, I do not hold out hope that you will–it would be advisable for the future of our great nation)!

  8. The real site is is spelled with “st” not “street”. Please have the decency to post this.

  9. So you’re saying that the web site Dr. Theo referenced isn’t thinking big enough for you Marxists? That forcing businesses to pay workers a “living wage” far in excess of what their labor is worth isn’t enough? That in addition to all the other things you’d like to do to violate people’s freedom, you want to “get the money out of politics?”

    So you want to restrict people from spending their own money as they see fit by supporting the candidate of their choice? You want to see a candidate that few people agree with be publicly funded by taxpayer dollars the same as a candidate that perhaps an overwhelming number of Americans support? You want to see taxpayer dollars used to pay for the campaign of fringe candidates that many people may disagree with?

    Would you be okay with your tax dollars being taken from you and given to a candidate who believes, as the Bible says, that homosexual behavior is wrong and should receive no special consideration whatsoever from the government; believes that abortion is the murder of an innocent human life and should be banned except to save the life of the mother; believes in adhering to the limits to federal power found in Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution and insists we dismantle all the unconstitutional programs of the last 70 years; and believes there is little scientific support for the theory of evolution and that all theories about origins should be taught in public schools?

    If you would be okay with that, how many of your Leftist friends do you think would be okay with that use of their tax dollars?

    Would you be okay with having your tax dollars spent to support the candidacy of a neo-Nazi who hates blacks, Jews and anyone else that neo-Nazis usually hate?

    Somehow I doubt you’d really be hot for taking away people’s freedom to spend their money as they choose…if it meant your money would be spent in ways you disagree with.

  10. I have been paying very close attention to this movement and I have no doubt that this is an anit-capitalist, anti-democracy movement. At best it is a socialist movement, and worst it is totalitarian and communist. Furthermore, I don’t have to wait around for an “officially official list of demands from the official head of the OWS movement” to put my finger on the pulse of what is happening. I have read the protest signs and seen the protestors interviewed on TV- this movement is the Left and their useful idiots advocating for class warfare. Failure to see this movement as anything less is to reject the lessons and history of the 20th Century.

  11. So you’re saying the other site is a fake? That it is lying about what you Marxist really want?

  12. Maybe this will help…or not.
    http://youtu.be/79QaklzY0YE

  13. Why is your website the “real one” and the other a “fake?”  Because you say so?

  14. You make a good point, both are done by some self-appointed do-gooders. So both sites and any others out there have NO official standing with the OWS movement and as such should not be quoted or sighted as what the movement is all about. I will say you have learned your “journalism” well from the masters, FOX.