“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” – Samuel Adams

On Savage’s Claim that Norway Terrorist is Christian

Listen to the author read this article Get Adobe Flash player

Gina Miller

An atomic bomb of words rocked the conservative talk radio world on Tuesday evening when Dr. Michael Savage signed on to his national radio show and declared that the accused mass murderer from last Friday’s horrific shootings and bombing in Oslo, Anders Breivik, is a Christian.  Many of you in this listening audience heard his words, since we carry Dr. Savage’s show on this station, and I suspect many of you, like me, thought, “Please don’t do this, Dr. Savage!  You’re only helping the communist Left in their efforts to defeat us!”

Well, he did it, and I suspect he heard from more than a few people who vehemently disagreed with him.

Tuesday was the same day in which my column titled “Norway Shooter-Bomber Not Christian, Probably Not Lone” was broadcast here locally and published at DakotaVoice.com.  In it, I presented what I now see was a simplistic, basic argument that Breivik’s actions demonstrated that he is not a Christian.  I jumped out there with such statements as this,

“First of all, anyone who is truly a Christian, who understands Christianity and God’s Word, knows there is no way in the universe that the evil animal (or animals) who committed those atrocious murders is anything remotely resembling a Christian, much less a Christian fundamentalist—which simply means a Christian who believes in the fundamental truths of the Bible without all the man-made extras that some ‘Christian’ religions add to it.  This lost, young man’s actions cannot in any way be considered the behavior of a Christian.”

That’s easy for me to say, isn’t it?  What did Dr. Savage do on Tuesday?  Well, it’s also easy to say that he irked a lot of people, but more than that, he caused many people to step back and do some deeper thinking.  It was certainly simple for me to pronounce this Norwegian monster to be un-Christian, but can I defend that position?  That is the question that Dr. Savage is forcing us to answer, if we are honestly seeking to discern truth.

Anders Behring Breivik in chemical suit (self portrait)

Due to deadline time constraints, I have only been able to read a small portion of the more than 1800-paged “manifesto” which has been attributed to Breivik, but what I have read only reinforces the unease I expressed in Tuesday’s column that this Breivik fellow seems like a perfect candidate to have been a creation of the radical communist Left.  Think: Reichstag Fire on steroids here.  If that sounds crazy, just bear with me a little here.

The parts of the manifesto which are attributed to him sound quite mature and learned for someone so young (32 years old), although he may just be a brilliant-minded monster.  Who knows?  I was amazed at the “conservative” message in the writings, and in many ways, it reads like something that could have been written by someone here in America, in that the “conservatism” and “patriotism” of what I read is very similar to that found among conservative American patriots.

It begins with an in-depth dissection and repudiation of political correctness, which he calls “cultural Marxism,” and moves on to lay bare the history of the Islamists and the truth about the violent nature of Muhammad’s false religion, which, in truth, is merely a political-militant ideology couched in religious phrasing.

A large portion of the manifesto is made up of copied writings from various sources.  The sources are credited, and I was a bit shocked (though I should not have been) to see conservative, even Christian, websites quoted, including WorldNetDaily, Free Republic, Jihad Watch, Atlas Shrugs and many others.  Someone did some heavy-duty research in compiling this giant volume, and they made sure to use some of the most beloved websites of conservatives here in America.  What better sources to use if your goal is to besmirch conservative patriots and ultimately attempt to create a false connection to horrific murders?  Some of those sites are the most reviled of the Left.

Toward the end of it, he gets into how to design your own body armor and recipes and instructions for creating explosive material, which I scanned in amazement.  He also includes some personal diary-type entries near the end, as well.

Breivik does cite Biblical Scripture.  What I saw in his use—or misuse, rather—of Scripture was mainly a person who is using the Bible to justify being a “warrior” in the physical sense, not in the spiritual sense that Christ calls us to be.  I also saw that the religion Breivik claims as superior is Catholicism, which explains some things to me.  I have very deep problems with Catholicism, although that’s not the point of this column.

So, is Breivik a Christian?  Let us take a look at some of the words of Jesus.  He warned his disciples, and all others who would come after them, to not be deceived.  As he said in Matthew 24,

“Take heed that no man deceive you.  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”

Jesus is clearly saying that there will be a multitude of liars who claim to be of Christ, or Christian, but in reality, they are deceitful and will lead many others astray—away from his truth.  That includes false versions of “Christianity” and various other fallacious belief systems by which billions of people are deceived.

Likewise, Jesus says in Matthew 7,

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.  But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.  By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?  Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.  A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.  Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.  Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.  Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’  Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’”

Those are seriously chilling words to the world.  First of all, Jesus is saying that most people will not choose salvation through him.  Instead, most people will choose to take that broad, easy road to eternal destruction.  He further makes it quite clear that there will be many people who lived their lives falsely claiming to be Christian who will find themselves standing before him on that final Day wherein Jesus will reject them, because they first rejected him.

What is the mark of a Christian?  Jesus says those who belong to him are the ones who do the will of God.  Before Jesus came and fulfilled the whole requirement of the Law, mankind lived under a death sentence, because every man has sinned, and God’s set penalty for sin is death—period.  Now that Jesus—who, as God in the flesh, lived a sinless life—has paid the death price for all our sins, we are under a New Covenant of grace, freely given by God through Jesus his Son, if we choose to accept it.

Where does Jesus tell us to plot the murder of our fellow man in order to terrorize people into seeing things our way?  Where does Jesus tell us to take up arms to protect our nations and our western way of life?  Where does Jesus tell us that we must fight our worldly enemies until we prevail?  The answer to all of the above is: nowhere.

In fact, our true struggle is not against our fellow man, although our fellow man can most certainly be our earthly enemy, and often is.  The real fight and our real enemies are in the spirit realm, as the Word of the Lord through Paul plainly states in Ephesians 6,

“Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power.  Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.  For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.  Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.  Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.  In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.  Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.”

This is certainly a war alright, but you can plainly see the weapons are not physical weapons, but spiritual ones.

Breivik is deceived if he believes the Lord has commanded us to kill people to preserve our western heritage.  There is a time for a just war to preserve a nation, and those wars are undertaken by governments of men, but what Breivik did can in no way be considered “just.”

Jesus does not endorse lawlessness.  As Christians, we are told to obey the laws of man, as long as they do not go against the laws of God.  Breivik broke both mans’ law and God’s law when he plotted, then committed, mass murder.  He is not a soldier sent to battle by a legitimate authority; he is a man of lawless atrocity, and he is a liar if he claims to be doing it with the consent of Christ.

But, the Big Lie is everywhere, whereas the truth is a precious and rare thing to find in this jungle of deceit in which we live.  One of the oldest and most commonly used tricks—or lies—is to misuse and misinterpret Scripture to “justify” works of evil.  We have seen this done throughout history.

Just because a person uses words from the Bible, does not mean he knows, or belongs to, Jesus—does not mean he is a Christian.  From the very beginning in the Garden, Satan has always twisted God’s Word, and he could not be further from being a Christian!  When Satan, through those people he has inspired, uses the Bible, it is only for purposes of deceit, and he has an astonishingly successful track record with doing so.

Breivik’s misuse of the Bible and his citing of conservative and Christian websites do not prove that he is a Christian, and his actions—his fruit—demonstrate that he is not even in the universe of Christianity.  Besides being most certainly infested with demons, Breivik is very deceived at the least, or worse, is an operative for a much deeper and darker battle than we are being told—a battle against true patriots and true Christians everywhere who oppose the evil, globalist rulers and their plans.  Either way, Breivik will now be a weapon used against us.

No, Anders Breivik is not a Christian, but even to such a monster as he, as to every person on earth, the free offer of salvation and forgiveness of sins is still extended by the grace and mercy of God our Father in Heaven through Christ Jesus his Son, if Breivik repents of his sins and accepts Jesus as his Lord and Savior before he dies.

Gina Miller, a native of Texas, is a radio commentator. She also works with her husband installing and repairing residential irrigation systems and doing landscaping on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.


Try us out at the new location: American Clarion!


40 Responses to “On Savage’s Claim that Norway Terrorist is Christian”

  1. Breivik described himself as a Christian AGNOSTIC.  He hoped Christian ATHEISTS would join his Knights Templar movement.  His terms are oxymorons (nonsensical linkages, like “giant shrimp”).

  2. You did good, Gina. I know how you enjoy listening to Savage, however, I believe God directed you to tell His truth about the spiritual war that is happening right now. Stand firm in your faith, my friend. 
    God Bless you and Dakota Voice.

  3. Thanks for your article, Gina. The enemies of truth are quite pleased right now. They are likely enjoying the turn of events in Norway and rubbing their hands in anticipation of widespread public deception, while they let the lies sink in. But in a while, they will begin to speak and act in bolder strokes. In pre-war Germany, the Jew was the straw man. Today, in the “International Community”, it’s the Conservative Christian. I mourn for the loss of reason. For in an honest world, reason is our strongest defense. But now the world is rife with a spirit of deception, hatred and rage. 

    But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumphal procession in Christ and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of him. – 2 Corinthians 2:14     

  4. Many people call themselves “christian” because they were born of parents who had them baptized into a faith, but have never darkened a church door, or followed Christs teachings.  As an example of the misunderstanding people have of “Christian”, a local mayoral candidate was asked if he was a Christian, and he responded with “I am a member of United Methodist Church” since 1973.  He lost, btw.  Following Christ requires that you confess Him as your savior.

  5. Thank you, Judy.  You’re a dear friend!

  6. Thank you, Judy.  You’re a dear friend!

  7. Ah, the Word of God is like the fresh, delicious scent of rain in the air!

    I do dread the future, but I look forward to the Lord’s return!
    Thank you, Mr. Mike!

  8. Ah, the Word of God is like the fresh, delicious scent of rain in the air!

    I do dread the future, but I look forward to the Lord’s return!
    Thank you, Mr. Mike!

  9. Funny how most of you will taint an entire other religion as terrorist from a limited number of persons actions. Now that someone has done it in YOUR NAME you duck and cover.Let’s have fun with your own words:“First of all, anyone who is truly a Muslim, who understands Islam and God’s Word, knows there is no way in the universe that the evil animal (or animals) who committed those atrocious murders is anything remotely resembling a Muslim, much less a Muslim fundamentalist—which simply means a Muslim who believes in the fundamental truths of the Koran without all the man-made extras that some ‘Muslim’ religions add to it.  This lost, young man’s actions cannot in any way be considered the behavior of a Muslim.”
    Some of you will twist logic to explain how that’s an unfair word game I played.  A few of you will tell the truth though; that so many of you are simply bigoted to Islam just as Mr Breivik was.

  10. How many of the terrorist acts committed against America in the last 30 years were committed by Muslims in the name of Allah?

    Unlike Christian doctrine, does Islamic doctrine teach violence against the infidels? http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/01/fitna-a-clarion-call-to-the-west/

  11. How predictable. Here come the Muslim apologists. Who could’ve seen that coming?

    That Norwegian monster did not do anything in “our name,” whatever that means.

  12. Gina,  Great two posts on this story! Great research and insight… you nailed it! Praise the Lord that you have eyes to see right through the demonic fog – Eph 6:12 (TGBTG!)!! Our CT. commie Hartford Currant ran with this all the way as a hit piece on Christians which are very few up here and I heard about it for the last few days.  This killer has seemed to ignite a deceptive apostate form of “Christian/conservatism” bomb with the end result to arise hatred, deception and slander from the blinded masses (2 Cor 4:3-4) against the true form of Biblical Christianity and conservatism. The Satanic table is being set as the demonic deception intensifies. The Day draws nigh! God Bless and God Speed!! Eph 5:16-17! David 

  13. Thanks so much, David! :-)

  14. Another shocker–breaking news!  Yet ANOTHER MUSLIM terror plot against Fort Hood was busted today.  We’re terribly surprised by this news.

  15. Doc Savage does let his mouth outrun his brain sometimes.

    But something I find interesting is this:  Last week, DHS (Dept. of Homegrown Stupidity) shows a video about terrorists.  Nearly all the “terrorists” in the video were the typical white American male.  For years we’ve been yelling at the stupid government to profile the people who commit terrorist acts, not to feel up grandma or grope everyone’s genitals before flying on a jet.
    So what do we see right after that release?  A white Norwegian male splashed all over the mainline media apparently guilty of these terror attacks.  I say apparently, because he probably had help.  Who benefits from this scenario?  It gives the idiots in the DHS their excuse to treat everyone like a criminal and terrorist, and further the surveillance state.  Nah, our government wouldn’t do that….would they?

  16. Steve, in Tuesday’s columnI noted the “uncanny” timing (3 days apart) of that DHS report/video release and the Norway terrorism. http://www.dakotavoice.com/2011/07/norway-shooter-bomber-not-christian-probably-not-lone/

  17. Steve, in Tuesday’s columnI noted the “uncanny” timing (3 days apart) of that DHS report/video release and the Norway terrorism. http://www.dakotavoice.com/2011/07/norway-shooter-bomber-not-christian-probably-not-lone/

  18. Thanks, I hadn’t read that one.

  19. Oh, hey!  In the spirit of pure political correctness, let us jump into the marvelous time machine of American music, and revisit a wonderful non-starter of a “hit.”  Now, I just love this song, I must say.

    Steely Dan (one of my favorite groups), 1976.  Album, “The Royal Scam.”  Song, “Don’t Take Me Alive.”
    Here is a really, really fine song about one of the countless WHITE AMERICAN MALE “homeland terrorists.” (sarcasm button now off)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tllhmK9g4G4

  20. Michael Savage is an interesting guy. When he is right he is right on and when he is wrong he is out to lunch… Seldom a middle ground there.

  21. Michael Savage is an interesting guy. When he is right he is right on and when he is wrong he is out to lunch… Seldom a middle ground there.

  22. By changing “Christian” to “Muslim” in the quoted text, you demonstrate the exact opposite of the point you were trying to make.

    The original text, with “Christian,” makes sense. The altered version, with “Muslim,” does not, because we see many “evil animals” committing atrocious murders as Muslims, and following the “fundamentals” of the Koran perfectly in the process.

    It would make just as much sense to change “He says he’s a Christian so I assume he believes in God” to “He says he’s an atheist so I assume he believes in God.”

  23. You are stretching reality a bit I believe. There are two things to consider when looking at terrorists who do things in the name of religion. Certainly most of the terror attacks have come in the name of Allah, not Jesus Christ. The other thing that is interesting to me is that it was hard to find a big outcry by Muslims after 9/11 and many other terror events committed in the name of Allah. Often times you will get a yeah, but… Followed by a reason Americans or their allies deserved it. 

    When some nut commits murder in the name of Jesus there is an outcry from Christians denouncing it and telling the world that the person did not represent them or their Chrstian beliefs. It seemed to me there was a bigger outcry among Muslims for killing the mass murderer Bin-Laden than there was for all the  murders he was behind.

    How does a rational person compare Christians to Muslims in this respect? To make matters worse hypocrites use someone like the Norway killer and try to claim he was a Christian. He said a lot of things and most of them show he was anything but a Christian. If he called himself an alien would you guys be saying he was an alien or would you say he was a nut? Christians say he was a nut or just plain evil. There is always the possibility he intentionally wanted people to believe he was a Christian. Perhaps he belonged to another religion altogether.

  24. You are stretching reality a bit I believe. There are two things to consider when looking at terrorists who do things in the name of religion. Certainly most of the terror attacks have come in the name of Allah, not Jesus Christ. The other thing that is interesting to me is that it was hard to find a big outcry by Muslims after 9/11 and many other terror events committed in the name of Allah. Often times you will get a yeah, but… Followed by a reason Americans or their allies deserved it. 

    When some nut commits murder in the name of Jesus there is an outcry from Christians denouncing it and telling the world that the person did not represent them or their Chrstian beliefs. It seemed to me there was a bigger outcry among Muslims for killing the mass murderer Bin-Laden than there was for all the  murders he was behind.

    How does a rational person compare Christians to Muslims in this respect? To make matters worse hypocrites use someone like the Norway killer and try to claim he was a Christian. He said a lot of things and most of them show he was anything but a Christian. If he called himself an alien would you guys be saying he was an alien or would you say he was a nut? Christians say he was a nut or just plain evil. There is always the possibility he intentionally wanted people to believe he was a Christian. Perhaps he belonged to another religion altogether.

  25. It is hard to believe that more people didn’t escape there. Seems likely he did have help. It is interesting that this nut says he was acting alone and they act like they should take his word for it. If the first words out of a murderers mouth are I’m not a Muslim and I acted alone it kinda makes my radar go up a tad. But I guess we have no reason to believe an evil monster would be dishonest as well.

  26. It is hard to believe that more people didn’t escape there. Seems likely he did have help. It is interesting that this nut says he was acting alone and they act like they should take his word for it. If the first words out of a murderers mouth are I’m not a Muslim and I acted alone it kinda makes my radar go up a tad. But I guess we have no reason to believe an evil monster would be dishonest as well.

  27. Agreed.  I am not a regular Savage listener because I perceive a little self-righteousness and a bias against all religions, but especially Christians.  Most of the time I agree with his take on politics and culture, but then he goes into a rant occasionally that is incongruous with his other views. 

    I am glad he is out there and understand much of his popularity, but I find it hard to listen to some of his shows, like this one.

    (Gina, your new photo is terrific!  I would include my photo with my posts but it would likely drive readers away from DV.)

  28. Agreed.  I am not a regular Savage listener because I perceive a little self-righteousness and a bias against all religions, but especially Christians.  Most of the time I agree with his take on politics and culture, but then he goes into a rant occasionally that is incongruous with his other views. 

    I am glad he is out there and understand much of his popularity, but I find it hard to listen to some of his shows, like this one.

    (Gina, your new photo is terrific!  I would include my photo with my posts but it would likely drive readers away from DV.)

  29. I agree, Doc. Dr. Savage is spot-on with politics, but misses the mark by a mile in his theology. Bless his heart.

    Thank you! I’m glad you like the photograph. I had too many complaints about the last one. You’re funny, too! :-) We would love your picture!

  30. Dr. Theo is too modest. I’ve met him and he’s a rather handsome devil.

  31. Thou shall not bear false witness, Mr. Ellis :o)

  32. In the same way that you say Anders Breivik is not a Christian, the people that carry out terrorist acts in the name of Islam, have nothing to do with Islam.

    The greatest sin against God is associating partners with Him.  God is One!  This is what 95% of Islam is.  When you are ready to accept this, then you are ready to be Muslim.

  33. Some do claim that acts of Islamic terrorism have nothing to do with Islam. But what do the facts say?

    Islamic terrorists usually make it clear that they are slaughtering infidels in the name of Allah. Further, what does the Islamic scriptures and Islamic teachers say? http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/01/fitna-a-clarion-call-to-the-west/

  34. He is no more a Christian than are al Qaeda are Muslim. When you kill, in both cases you go against the religion you represent. I’m an atheist and even I know this.

  35. Except that Muslim scriptures and clerics say you should kill the resistant infidel: http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/01/fitna-a-clarion-call-to-the-west/

  36. Thank you Gina.  Great article.  I have been a Michael Savage fan for at least 7 years.  I cancelled my subscription to his podcast because of his inane explanation as to why Brevik is a Christian Terrorist.  I just don’t think he gets it and he never will.  The sad thing is I’ve seen article since that really bash Christianity now and his pushing that this guy was a Christian just feeds the fire.