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ACLU: Police Should Apologize for Doing Their Job

The dismissal of a female homosexual Air Force sergeant at Ellsworth Air Force Base has made headlines recently. Rapid City Police made contact with Sergeant Jene Newsome in pursuit of an arrest warrant on a woman named Cheryl Hutson. Hutson was wanted for theft in Alaska and police had information that Newsome might know Hutson’s whereabouts. During the course of the investigation, Rapid City Police met with resistance from Newsome and eventually discovered a marriage license issued in Iowa which stated the two were “married.”

In the course of the incident, as is normal practice for military and civilian law enforcement authorities, these findings were passed along from the Rapid City Police Department to officials at Ellsworth AFB.  Subsequently, because Newsom’s homosexual behavior came to light, she was discharged from the military because homosexual behavior is incompatible with military service.

I won’t go into a fresh explanation of why homosexual behavior is disruptive in a military environment and why it is incompatible with military service.  I have already done so too frequently and with too much time invested recently, but for anyone interested in learning about that, you can read this and this and this and this and this and this and this–and don’t forget to read the comments because elaboration follows in the comments of some of these articles.

But this article is primarily about the actions of the Rapid City Police Department, and what has followed.

Since her honorable discharge, the anti-American Communists & Liberals Union (aka American Civil Liberties Union, or ACLU) has launched a campaign to legally extort $800,000 from the Rapid City Police Department for following long-established procedures for dealing with military personnel.

From the Rapid City Journal:

In a letter emailed Friday, to Mayor Alan Hanks and members of the city council, ACLU executive Robert Doody proposes a settlement it says will “assure that the right of privacy, due process and equal protection are complied with by the Rapid City Police Department and that Jene Newsome receives compensation for the conduct of the Rapid City Police Department.”

This is simply nothing more than the same old legal extortion the ACLU is famous for–and the kind of bullying, harassment and intimidation homosexual activists have become known for, and good people in Rapid City should stand up and speak out against this corrosive legal intimidation.

Now that the Rapid City Police Department report has been completed and made public by Chief Allender, let us examine some of the facts of this case.

As the report from Police Chief Steve Allender indicates, the Alaska State Patrol requested assistance from the Rapid City PD in tracking down Hutson to serve a felony arrest warrant because Hutson was believed to be living with Newsome in the Rapid City area.  RCPD came to Newsome’s civilian quarters at about noon but no one answered the door.  They then called Newsome at work at the base, requesting her assistance in locating Hutson.  Since Newsome was a non commissioned officer at the base (a rank of some responsibility), they expected her to want to help them.  However, Newsome told them she didn’t know how to reach Hutson and said she needed to inform her chain of command.

While waiting to hear back from Newsome, the police officer’s supervisor contacted the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI) to brief them on the situation and inform them that they were not being helped by Newsome.

This is what happened next:

More than four hours after the initial effort to make contact with Ms. Hutson at the house, the officer responded back to Sgt. Newsom’s home after receiving confirmation from the Alaska Authorities that cell phone communications from Ms. Hutson to a third party in Alaska indicated she was inside the house when the officer was there the first time. Once the officer arrived back at the residence, he made contact with witnesses who saw Ms. Hutson look outside briefly just a few minutes before, then go back inside. The officer called for a second officer to respond. When the second officer arrived, he walked around the side of the house to check for a possible means of escape. While there, he noted the dryer vent was exhausting hot air. He looked through a ground level kitchen window of the home in an attempt to see anyone in the house. A table was directly under the window and a document was lying face-up on the table approximately two and a half feet from the officer’s face. The document was a marriage certificate and he could read both names – Cheryl Hutson and Jene Newsome.

Next, Chief Allender explains why this “marriage” certificate was relevant to the investigation:

The unexpected discovery of the marriage license was an important moment in the investigation. The license certainly confirmed they were at the right house, but more importantly it shed light on the relationship between Ms. Hutson and Sgt. Newsome. Earlier when the first officer spoke to Sgt. Newsome on the phone, he believed he was merely speaking to a roommate. When Sgt. Newsome stated she was unaware of Ms. Hutson’s whereabouts, unaware of how to contact her and that she (Ms. Hutson) didn’t have a phone, these statements could be better understood given the relationship of mere roommates. The marriage license, whether recognized in South Dakota or not, spoke to the depth of the relationship between Sgt. Newsome and Ms. Hutson and shed a new light on Sgt. Newsome’s earlier statements. At this point in time, Sgt. Newsome had become the subject of a criminal investigation for “Accessories to Crime” under South Dakota Codified Law.

Contact was later made with both Newsome and Hutson over the phone. Newsome was returning home after work and arrived there shortly after Hutson agreed to come outside the home where she was arrested. There was some discussion of charging Newsome with being an accessory, but that decision was not made at that time (I’m starting to sound like I’m writing a police report like I did so often several years ago.)

Allender’s report states that it has been longstanding practice for civilian and military authorities to share information that involves police contact with military personnel.

There is a long-standing practice (more than 25 years) of sharing information obtained through RCPD contact with Air Force members who are arrested or otherwise have committed a crime. The RCPD keeps an after-hours roster of first sergeants to respond to the field to address problems such as fighting, drunkenness etc. The communication may go from the RCPD to an Air Force sergeant, or to the OSI depending on the offense. It is done, fairly informally depending on the circumstances on a case by case basis.

The detective in this case would be in charge of initiating any further investigation in the Newsome case. He decided to forward the report to the Air Force to learn what if anything they might do to resolve this. This practice is also utilized regularly but more often after an arrest has been made. The two agencies decide informally or sometimes formally who will exercise jurisdiction over the matter at hand.

As to the inclusion of the information concerning the “marriage” license? It’s relevance has already been established above. Chief Allender further clarifies why the investigating officer included the information in the report:

He did not consider redacting the information as this practice is never done when releasing a report to a government agency.

In other words, including such relevant information was a simple matter of policy and practice.

I spent 10 years in the Air Force and worked as a military cop in a variety of the areas available in the service: patrolman, Desk Sergeant (the rough equivalent of a dispatcher in the civilian world), supervisor and as a detective. Through the course of all those duties at multiple locations around the United States and overseas, I had occasion to work with civilian police officials and law enforcement officials of other agencies (including some with foreign governments), and regardless of the location or agency, law enforcement officials of all flavors usually work together quite well in helping one another in their duties. I spent several years at Ellsworth Air Force Base in Rapid City and worked with the Rapid City Police Department, the Box Elder Police Department, the Pennington County Sheriff’s Department, the Meade County Sheriff’s Department, Meade County constables, local DEA officials, and others. Frequently we helped facilitate their efforts in the pursuit of their duties, and frequently they extended the same courtesy to us in the pursuit of law enforcement matters regarding military members.

In short, the level and type of cooperation seen in this incident is typical of all my law enforcement experience, even though I have been out of the service for 15 years now.

Newsome made several bad choices. Her first was to engage in homosexual behavior–something which is immoral and unhealthy, in addition to being contrary to accepted behavior for military personnel.

She also made a bad choice to counterfeit marriage. Marriage can only be between a man and a woman. Only a man and a woman possess the combination of physical and sex characteristics to form the physical and emotional bond required for marriage. It doesn’t matter that one particular government agency was derelict in its duty to uphold basic societal standards and participated with her in counterfeiting marriage; the marriage was nevertheless not an actual marriage and was only a counterfeit facsimile of one.

Newsome also made a bad choice to get involved with a felon. She displayed poor judgment in becoming involved with a felonious thief who was a fugitive from justice, and this poor judgement could also have bearing on her judgment in other areas, including her military duties. Military members have incredible responsibilities, working around dangerous, multi-million-dollar equipment, and their actions have the potential to affect countless lives. Many military members are also entrusted with classified information that is important to national security (and thus, lives are on the line); poor judgment and classified information is a very dangerous combination.

This sergeant also made a bad choice to lie to law enforcement authorities who were in pursuit of a felon and hindered their ability to bring her to justice.

It is unfortunate that Newsome’s nine years in the Air Force came to an end so abruptly and unexpectedly. However, that end came through a series of bad choices she made; no one forced her to make these decisions. Each of us have made bad decisions over the course of our lives, and I am no exception. I have made many terrible decisions and have displayed very poor judgment in a number of situations. But we must all eventually deal with the consequences of those choices, as must Newsome.

The Rapid City Police Department should not be penalized for doing the right thing, nor the United States Air Force. This lawsuit from the ACLU is the typical, amoral rot that this despicable organization has always pushed. I hope the Rapid City Police Department and the Rapid City government will not capitulate to their threats and attempts at legal extortion as many others have in the past.

We, the people of Rapid City and citizens of America, must stand with those in military and police uniform who work hard to enforce our laws, maintain order, and keep us safe. If we cut their legs from under them,  fail to back them and fail to enable them to do their jobs well, how can we possibly be able to count on them when we need them most?

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  • DJ

    The “peek through the kitchen window to see an Iowa marriage license on a table” doesn’t work, Bob. Noboby believed that one.

    Your version reads: “Rapid City Police…eventually discovered a marriage license…”

    Bob, police don’t “eventually discover a marriage license.” Search warrants are limited in scope. Search warrants FOR PEOPLE don’t include “eventually finding documents.” That’s where Rapid City is going down for the count. Rapid City should settle while they have the opportunity to do so.

    In addition, sharing information about those documents to third parties is also outside the scope of a warrant issued FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.

    If the police see my unpaid bills on the kitchen table while searching for SOMBODY ELSE, they can’t contact Rapid City merchants with their fax machine to say, “Don’t do business with DJ, we saw unpaid bills in DJ’s house. We peeked through the kitchen window and saw them. One bill even shows DJ stayed in a hotel with another person of the same sex. Everybody, let us know what you decide about DJ.”

    I don’t think so, Bob. This will be a learning experience for you.

  • Jeff

    Whatever……..gay people have the right to be free just as everyone else. We will take up arms and fight for it if we have to. As for fighting in your military; NEVER as long as we are second rate citizens. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it Bob. All you old people will die off in time and take your ignorance and bigotry with you just as back in slavery times.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    In case it escaped you, homosexuals (at least in America) already are free. I'm not sure why think they are second-class citizens; they have the same rights as anyone else. You might be buying the pap about comparing black people–who were discriminated against on the basis of their skin color, an innate, morally neutral physical characteristic–and homosexuals who choose to behave homosexually, but people are seeing through that deception. You should be ashamed of comparing the very real historical struggles black Americans have endured with the choices homosexuals have made to act in an immoral and unhealthy manner.

    If homosexuals want to serve in the military, they need to modify their behavior so that it meets military standards. Unfortunately, Jene Newsome considered her homosexual behavior to be a higher priority than her military service. That was her choice to make.

  • Brian Rutledge

    Bob

    Do you know what the official reason the Air Force used to discharge her. Was it her homosexuality or the fact she protected a felon

  • lilclj

    Seriously, get a grip. The cops knew they were at the right house, the Alaska authorities told them where to go, and Newsome confirmed that Hutson lived there when they called her. They knew Hutson was in the house at some point, cause the Alaska authorities told them. Being, you know, cops, they should have known that Newsome could not know for sure where Hutson was, because Newsome was at work, and obviously, Hutson was not with her at that time. Newsome did not try to be sneaky and warn Hutson to run away, she just went back to work to finish the shift. By the time Newsome gets home, they already have Hutson in custody, allowing her to gather her things, clearly in the end she was cooperating. Newsome was not charged with and committed no crime. The RCPD detective wanted to forward that report with the unnecessary references to the marriage license to get Newsome kicked out of the AF. You think when people join the military they give up all their rights as citizens? Don't Ask, Don't Tell is the law of the land, like it or not. And that is how we get to these stupid situations, cause it is a really poorly written law. So is Detective Garinger a racist, homophobic, right wing conservative? Or is he a by the book dude with no room in his head for independent thought? Probably he just didn't like her, was mad cause Alaska decided to kick Hutson loose after all his hard work, (they reissued the warrant later without incident) and decided to omit some of the finer aspects of the report to his boss and sent it to the AFB with a secret power smile in his head. Now Rapid City gets to be under the microscope and the entire population of the Black Hills will be judged by what they decide to do with Detective Save the Military from the Gays. The worst thing about this is, he is a detective, and he did not anticipate this response to his actions. I am sure of that. A RCPD detective is the new poster boy for homophobia.

  • Peter Konen

    If she was dismissed for lying to police I'm ok with it. If she was dismissed for being gay then those officers are no better then members of the North Korean or Cuban security apparatus. What happened to the “don't ask” part of “don't ask don't tell” ? As long as she didn't advertise her orientation then no government entity is supposed to actively out her (a crappy solution to the gays in the mlitary but better than an outright ban). Stop with the “police were doing their job” crap. Total spin. The wedding license has nothing to do with whether or not she was lying about Newsom's location. Why can't you just admit the officers share your backwards view of homosexuality and seized an opportunity to punish her ?

    Your argument is so full of holes I can't address them all but lets start with these two:

    1. How did “she prioritize her homosexual behavior over her military service”? You wrote that but there is zero evidence of that. In fact it sounds like she kept her sexual orientation on the down low because she valued her military career. Which by the way must be a very difficult decision and therefore seems to be proof of exactly the opposite of your silly assertion.
    2. In this day and age anybody asserting that homosexual feelings are a choice doesn't even understand basic high school science. Stop getting on your high horse about “the very real historical struggle of blacks” as if South Dakota led the charge for civil rights. Acting on a sexual feeling might be a choice but having those feelings is not a choice unless you subscribe to the ludicrous position that anyone would choose to be a maligned minority. Some earlier version of you wrote the same article about miscegenation 40 or 50 years ago and eventually you will be viewed the same way as that racist oped writer.

  • Anonymous

    Bob, it sounds like anything that goes against your ingrained prejudice against homosexuals is “wasting your time.” For instance, you claim great respect for the rule of law, and for those that enforce it – but your respect for law ends when you note that the law that allowed Newsome and Hitson to marry is merely a governmental “dereliction of duty.” There are numerous scientific studies that suggest homosexuality IS an inborn immutable characteristic – but your respect for science ends when considering those studies. Instead, you prefer to look only at the simplest level – the physical anatomy – which you believe is all anyone needs to know to reach your conclusion. You appear to respect the idea of treatment that results in “curing” homosexuals – but your respect ends before you get to the success rate (less than 1%), the side effects (increased depression and suicidal tendencies), and the opinion of the APA (it doesn’t work, and is harmful.)

    And by the way – I’ve been married for 25 years. But if the police called me at work and asked where my wife is, especially if they told me they’d already tried at my house, then I’d probably have no clue, either. And since my wife normally doesn’t turn on her cell phone unless she’s making a call, I’d also have no way to reach her. Would that make me an accessory in that situation? I don’t keep such close tabs on my wife that I know where she is every minute. Do you keep such close track of yours?

  • Anonymous

    The thing is, Mr. Ellis, if Alaska was watching the call dump close enough to catch that call from Hutson to someone up there, they would not have missed a call from the base, particularly to a hard line. I am certain that Newsome did not deny that she lived with Hutson when she first spoke to the police, because she is not in jail right now. And if she had told that lie, she would be in jail, and it would be harsh but then she would have had it coming. Newsome was not looking for trouble, I am pretty sure she told the police that if Hutson wasn’t at the house she did not know where she was and that was probably true. She was doing her AF job, she was serving our country. Is it really a law that if the police ask a husband or wife how to get a hold of their spouse and the husband or wife doesn’t know they are obstructing? We have some pretty serious hearsay, and evidentiary problems here, Mr. Ellis. The AF, all they did was what they were required to do by law. The RCPD, they overstepped. The dumbest thing Allendar did was put that report out before Green looked at it. Cause hiding behind a policy that is not set in stone is like not hiding at all. They will easily find 10, 20, 30 or even 300 more situations in the last 25 years much worse than this one where the RCPD never contacted the base, so that will be the end of that “Gee whiz, we had to,” argument for the jury. I would even bet that some unlucky AF guy got picked up for a D&D outside an establishment of questionable reputation, and none of it was reported to the AF. How many guys from the base do you think might have provided alcohol to minor girls and somewhere in the night crossed paths with the police without the police notifying the base. How many of those things do I have to find for a jury to believe that the policy of which you defend the RCPD with is swiss cheese. Duffy is already writing the cross. Going with the plain view doctrine against illegal search and seizure? I’ll go with forwarded evidence obtained illegally to other government agency, judges absolutely hate that whole fruit of the poisonous tree thingy, and oh yeah, the marriage license, the turning point for the case. The test for that is, would the RCPD have found Hutson without the marriage license? The answer being yes would eliminate the whole cornerstone of the case thing. Allendar should have shown that report to the lawyers. No sir, the RCPD blew it or at least Det. Garinger did. They blew it. And how they are handling is probably going to make it worse. For them to win that policy would have to be rock solid. And if you have ever lived in RC, you know that is not the case. Might be time for you to grow up a little bit Mr. Ellis. But the blogs are loving you all over the country.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    Actually I saw nothing in the report hat indicated Newsome admitted Hutson lived at her residence, only that Newsome told police she didn't know how to get in touch with her–something we now know to be a complete lie since (a) they were engaged in a counterfeit marriage together, and (b) she is virtually certain to have known Hutson was at home since apparently Hutson was there doing laundry.

    Also, we don't know whether Newsome warned or attempted to warn Hutson to run away; no facts are in evidence either way. We do know Newsome lied to the police about her knowledge of Hutson's whereabouts and about her ability to contact Hutson.

    The only “cooperation” that came from Newsome came after a third party spilled the beans about Hutson being in their home and that Hutson had been present when the police had knocked on the door earlier.

    Newsome could have been charged with a crime, and the police did consider doing so, but in the end she was not. Police frequently do not press all the charges that could be pressed, especially when the primary objective of an incident has been resolved.

    People who join the military do not give up all their rights (I know this because I served for 10 years). But they do surrender some of their rights. They do not enjoy full freedom of speech, because they are not allowed to say anything they want to their superiors, nor are they completely free to publish articles in the public eye, and they do not have the freedom to simply walk away from this “job.” Likewise, when someone joins the military, they agree to live by the rules and regulations that govern military service, including no homosexual behavior. Newsome knew this, and chose to violate it.

    Regardless of your defense of immoral and unhealthy behavior, and your contempt for the police who did the right thing all the way, it is clear that department policy was followed all the way through. There are any number of points at which Newsome might have saved herself immense trouble and even preserved her military career. However, she made a series of bad choices and must deal with the consequences.

    Please, don't act like a spoiled 5-year old and whine about the bad “old people” who insist on right over wrong. Be a grownup and support the RCPD for doing the right thing, as did the Air Force.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    What happened to the “Don't Ask, Don't Tell?” She “told” when she chose to enter into a counterfeit marriage with a felon, and had a public document (her marriage license) to prove it.

    If she had done the right thing at any point–especially when she had an opportunity to cooperate with the police initially–in all likelihood she would have preserved her career. Instead, she chose to lie to police and harbor a felon.

    1. How did “she prioritize her homosexual behavior over her military service”? She was aware that homosexual behavior was not condoned by the military and was not compatible with military service. Yet she chose to engage in that behavior. Therefore, she considered engaging in homosexual behavior to be of greater importance to her than her military service. It's really quite simple.

    2. Please don't waste my time and insult my intelligence with talk of “science” concerning flights of fancy that homosexuals might be “born that way” or genetically predisposed to homosexual behavior. Despite decades of desperate searching by homosexual and pro-homosexual “scientists,” not a single shred of compelling evidence has surfaced. What's more, the countless people who have once practiced homosexual acts to have gone on to become heterosexual and enjoy heterosexuality belays that baseless idea. Further, the very design and function of the male and female sex organs, and how the function in complimentary fashion with one another, proves scientifically that human beings were intended to behave in a heterosexual manner.

    Your claims that skin color–an innate, morally-neutral physical characteristic are somehow akin to homosexual behavior is not only scientifically ill-informed, but is an insult to the struggles that many black Americans have historically faced. They were mistreated for nothing more than the color of their skin. People make a choice of whether to give into homosexual impulses, and with choices come consequences. Please, don't belittle the unconscionable treatment many black Americans have received for simply having dark skin.

    All of this–including the circumstances of this incident–is as clear as day to anyone not biased to favor immoral and unhealthy sexual practices, no matter the circumstances surrounding them. Hopefully you may eventually be able to put aside all the biased error to which you currently cling and be able to see the astonishingly clear truth of this matter.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    If you don't like my summary of some details of the incident in order to move the narrative along, why don't you read the actual report? The report describes the discovery in great detail.

    Since you seem repulsed by real information in favor of clinging to biased lies, allow me to spoon feed you the account:

    More than four hours after the initial effort to make contact with Ms. Hutson at the house, the officer responded back to Sgt. Newsom’s home after receiving confirmation from the Alaska Authorities that cell phone communications from Ms. Hutson to a third party in Alaska indicated she was inside the house when the officer was there the first time. Once the officer arrived back at the residence, he made contact with witnesses who saw Ms. Hutson look outside briefly just a few minutes before, then go back inside. The officer called for a second officer to respond. When the second officer arrived, he walked around the side of the house to check for a possible means of escape. While there, he noted the dryer vent was exhausting hot air. He looked through a ground level kitchen window of the home in an attempt to see anyone in the house. A table was directly under the window and a document was lying face-up on the table approximately two and a half feet from the officer’s face. The document was a marriage certificate and he could read both names – Cheryl Hutson and Jene Newsome.

    Having spent many years in police work in a variety of circumstances, such a scenario is so easily credible that it hardly warrants discussion. No warrant is needed for plain-sight discovery.

    The sharing of information between RCPD and the Air Force was also documented in both my article and in the police chief's report (did you not even bother reading all of my article?):

    The unexpected discovery of the marriage license was an important moment in the investigation. The license certainly confirmed they were at the right house, but more importantly it shed light on the relationship between Ms. Hutson and Sgt. Newsome. Earlier when the first officer spoke to Sgt. Newsome on the phone, he believed he was merely speaking to a roommate. When Sgt. Newsome stated she was unaware of Ms. Hutson’s whereabouts, unaware of how to contact her and that she (Ms. Hutson) didn’t have a phone, these statements could be better understood given the relationship of mere roommates. The marriage license, whether recognized in South Dakota or not, spoke to the depth of the relationship between Sgt. Newsome and Ms. Hutson and shed a new light on Sgt. Newsome’s earlier statements. At this point in time, Sgt. Newsome had become the subject of a criminal investigation for “Accessories to Crime” under South Dakota Codified Law.

    The police chief's report also goes on in considerable detail to explain long-standing policy for the sharing of information (over and above the aforementioned relevance of the “marriage” license to this case) that has been SOP since I first worked in law enforcement at that very Air Force Base 20 years ago. I suggest you read the report.

    Why don't you just be up front about your motivation here. You desperately want to excuse immoral, unnatural and unhealthy sexual conduct, and facts are really irrelevant when they stand between you and that excuse, aren't they? All that matters is that someone who wants to engage in homosexual behavior be allowed to do so, regardless of military law, standards of military conduct, mission readiness, national defense, police investigations, criminal conduct, or any official policy. Nothing must prevent someone from engaging in homosexual behavior if they so desire, correct?

    I really hope you realize how shallow, unintellectual, and pathetically petty that attitude is, but somehow I doubt you do.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    To the best of my knowledge, though Newsome could have been charged with aiding or harboring a felon, she was not charged. Her discharge was based entirely on her violation of the military standard against homosexual behavior.

  • Brian Rutledge

    It seems the police were right to reveal the evidence that Hutson and Newsome were married , because it is proof of the closeness of their relationship and that Newsome more than likely knew where her partner was. Whether the military should have been informed depends on how the military and the police usually handled instances when a military member was involved in a crime or possible crime.My understanding is that the police notify the military ASAP

    Having said that, I think homosexuals have proved they can effectively and valiantly serve in the military without decreasing its effectiveness or morale.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    Actually they have not proved they can serve in the military without decreasing its effectiveness or morale.

    While homosexuals have served in the U.S. military, they have not done so openly. To serve openly as a homosexual is where the breakdown in logistical efficiency, morale, discipline, etc. would come.

    As I pointed out earlier this week regarding the Dutch military's pathetic behavior at Srebrenica, the permissive culture that included open homosexuality bred disastrous results for the civilians the Dutch military was there to protect. (http://www.dakotavoice.com/2010/03/dutch-milita...)

    We cannot play games with the effectiveness of the U.S. military just to make homosexuals feel better about their immoral behavior.

  • DJ

    “No warrant is needed for plain-sight discovery.”

    You might want to double-check that, my friend.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    I don't need to check it; I know it. I used to be a cop.

  • Brian Rutledge

    Bob

    I don't think the one isolated, Dutch incident means much because I could point out the English, Canadian etc military where such incidences haven;t occurred in many years of battle and where gays serve openly.

    I wonder if the type of individual, gay or straight, who joins the military, is by nature. different from us average Joes . Might you be confusing the gay, activist in California or anywhere, who is interested in pushing the gay agenda for the gay cause, from the gay who is not interested in pushing this agenda and only cares about their serving their country. Are you assuming that that the gay person who wants to serve our country as an openly gay person, is interested in disrupting the military by aggressively and inappropriately approaching or making other non-gays uncomfortable.Do you think their leacherous sexual tendencies are just too strong and will override their patriotism and desire to follow military protocol. I would submit they are not and would continue to put their country first like they are doing now. I don't think if the military changes it rules and allows gays to serve openly, that they will see this as a green card to disrupt the military and country they love and cherish so much.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    I am merely stating the obvious. Certainly even you understand that there are some laws that are not based on a moral foundation. For instance, the millions imprisoned (and killed) in Nazi Germany were all handled legally…but those laws had no moral foundation. The same was true of the millions imprisoned in the Soviet Union, and the examples go on and on.

    Iowa's dereliction of duty is a matter of objective fact. Marriage quite obviously can only be between a man and a woman. Two men or two women can certainly have sex, but they cannot form a marriage any more than all female parts or all male parts can create a bathroom.

    And no, there is not a single scientific study that withstands the rigors of the scientific method that provides any compelling proof that homosexuality is an inborn genetic characteristic–not in all the decades of desperate searching.

    We need not look beyond the “simplest level” to understand the obvious. Would you endlessly wrestle with the possibility that a hammer might just actually be a writing instrument? Would you spend countless hours in an effort to prove that a pistol was a back scratcher? Some things are very obvious…unless one is desperate to excuse the inexcusable, which is obviously the motive here.

    I'm sorry that you and your wife are on such foreign terms that you would really have no idea how to contact her. You might want to work on that, lest a child (if you have children) or other loved one is seriously injured, or even if you are seriously hurt, since emergency responders might really need to contact her, and if you have no idea how to contact her…well, I can only say that I feel very sorry for you and her.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    Again, based on the information provided, it seems Newsome indicated a decided lack of close familiarity with Hutson. Again I cite Chief Allender's report:

    At about noon on November 20th an officer arrived at the residence. He attempted to make
    contact at the residence but there was no response. A short while later the officer called Sgt.
    Newsome at her duty station and asked her for assistance. Believing they were simply
    roommates, and considering Sgt. Newsome was a non-commissioned officer in the Air Force, the
    officer had a high expectation of gaining her cooperation. Sgt. Newsome indicated she did not
    know how to contact Ms. Hutson and explained that she needed to inform her chain of command.
    The officer assured her he understood the need to inform her chain of command as he was a
    member of the Army National Guard. Throughout the conversation with Sgt. Newsome, the
    officer was unable to obtain specific information about Ms. Hutson’s whereabouts from Sgt.
    Newsome.

    And

    Earlier when the first officer spoke
    to Sgt. Newsome on the phone, he believed he was merely speaking to a roommate. When Sgt.
    Newsome stated she was unaware of Ms. Hutson’s whereabouts, unaware of how to contact her
    and that she (Ms. Hutson) didn’t have a phone, these statements could be better understood given
    the relationship of mere roommates.

    Again, we see a clear attempt to deceive the police not only about the closeness of their relationship (which was pertinent to Newsome's ability to make contact with Hutson) but deliberately lied about her ability to know where Hutson might be or how to contact Hutson.

    If “guys” from the base provided alcohol to minor girls and crossed paths with the police, I have no doubt the police would have charged them and contacted the base. I used to take similar calls from civilian authorities all the time.

    It doesn't matter whether the RCPD would have discovered Hutson without the marriage license; the fact is, they saw it during the course of the investigation, and it was clearly explained in Allender's report how upon discovery it tied the two together and revealed how Newsome had attempted to deceive them.

    Are you really so desperate to excuse homosexual behavior that you make up totally wild accusations which have absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever? Must you really manufacture completely unfounded “what ifs” just because you are so eager to defend someone who clearly violated military rules and regulations?

    Frankly I don't care if other infantile people like yourself are “loving” my debunking of your pathetic excuses. Anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence and objectivity sees right through you juvenile attempts to strike back at the “mean old grownups” who ruin the kind of childish “fun” you so want to be accepted as legitimate.

    It is quite clear that it is you who is in desperate need of growing up–and not just a little bit.

  • http://www.dakotavoice.com Bob Ellis

    The Dutch incident shows where this kind of permissive mentality can lead. And an attitude of “Oh, we'll just allow a little permissiveness” is a step in the wrong direction.

    It is true that most–not all, but most–people who join the military really aren't like the average joe. They experience the same weaknesses and failings that any of us do, but there is usually a level of commitment, integrity. and a love of country above all else that is far above any random cross section from the civilian population. And then there are those who, for whatever reason, don't share those qualities (some join for the free college, some for the travel, some because Dad did, etc.), and they usually just don't fit in well. They may even serve for many years, but they are often the weak link in the whole machine.

    They may prove a weak link because they lack integrity. They may be the weak link because of a lack of commitment. They may be a weak link because they place personal priorities ahead of military necessity. They may be homosexual or they may be heterosexual.

    But the fact remains that homosexual behavior causes problems with discipline, morale, and order in the military, and allowing it erodes the moral fiber of the military. Allowing it openly also created logistical problems–problems that demand resources better spent on destroying the enemy than in making someone feel good about their immoral choices.

    Though this really isn't the subject of this article, to answer the issue you raised, it really comes down to the fact that homosexual behavior presents a number of problems in a military atmosphere, and neither society nor the military is obligated to go out of its way to accommodate someone's desire to behave immorally without censure.

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