We’re going to have to start listening to what they say

When bin Laden spoke for years about attacking the Great Satan, we should have paid attention. When Imams boasted of coming attacks in London and Madrid we shouldn’t have dismissed them out of hand. When Ahmadinejad talks of wiping out Israel, we shouldn’t assume that he is only engaging in rhetorical hyperbole for the sake of the home crowd.

In the first few hours following the attack and killing of 13 Americans and the wounding of many more, we learned a great deal about Nidal Malik Hasan. It actually seems as though Hasan has been telling us for some time just what he had on his mind. Political correctness, military protocols and an ostrich strategy for confronting an unpleasant reality led to the most serious attack by an Islamist since 9-11.

Most comentators would insert here the obligatory disclaimer about the “good Muslims” and the “religion of peace,” etc. I say that is nonsense. Let those Muslims that seek peaceful coexistence with the rest of the world speak up and show us what an over-whelming majority they are and just how devoted they are to the cause of peace. The rest of America would welcome such reassurance and it would help us avoid the unfortunate association of Muslims with terrorism. It is the responsibility of the Ummah to counter stereotypes and false impressions and show the world what Islam really means, not mine.

Instapundit begins a piece today with “EXPLOSIVE: Ft. Hood suspect reportedly shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’.” He then quotes an NPR program about what others have said about Hasan :

He gave a Grand Rounds presentation. . . You take turns giving a lecture on, you know, the correct treatment of schizophrenia, the right drugs to prescribe for personality disorder, you know, that sort of thing. But instead of giving an academic paper, he gave a lecture on the Koran, and they said it didn’t seem to be just an informational lecture, but it seemed to be his own beliefs. That’s what a lot of people thought.

He talked about how if you’re a nonbeliever the Koran says you should have your head cut off, you should have oil poured down your throat, you should be set on fire.

.Jylland_Posten

Mr. Hasan, it seems, had been telling those around him for some time what his beliefs and sentiments are. We should start believing such people and act accordingly (within Constitutional constrains for a US citizen). Mr. Hasan enjoyed all the benefits of living in America, where he was born to Jordanian immigrants. His entire education was paid for by American taxpayers. He inexplicably retained his job in the Army despite poor performance reviews that would have finished the careers of most any other officer. Mr. Hasan was given every opportunity and advantage that America has to offer, yet hates this country and desires its destruction. What more can we do to make them love us?

We should stop trying to understand our enemies and instead listen to what they say, watch what they do and stop them before they carry out their murderous occupation. To those Muslims that wish only opportunity, peace and privacy, welcome to America; we can work and live together amicably. But you’ll have to speak up in defense of our way of life and take a stand for the liberty and prosperity that we enjoy. I will defend your constitutional rights as an American, but you’ll have to defend your honor and your reputation.

23 Responses to “We’re going to have to start listening to what they say”

  1. Good points, Dr. Theo. We certainly should take them at their word. And, like you said, where are the “moderate” Muslims? I don't believe they exist. By the very mandates in the evil religion, they cannot be “moderate.” If they exist, they certainly don't speak out to condemn these hellish acts of murderous terror.

    Do we believe the massacre at Fort Hood was an act of terrorism? Certainly. What was our first thought when we heard of this? We thought, “Muslims.” There was no thought that it was one of our boys that “snapped,” no, not at all.

    When are the “leaders” of our country going to stop this farce campaign against “offending” Muslims? It's preposterous! CAIR! Get out of our country! These people want to kill us. They have infiltrated all of our institutions, including our military! I don't give a RIP if some Muslim is offended! When are we going to wake up to the danger these animals pose to every one of us?

    Racial and religious profiling and monitoring of Muslims is essential. STOP immigration from the Middle East and other Muslim countries into the United States of America!

    Gina Miller

  2. dr theo I agree with what you say, but what measures do you think should have been taken on this Dr. Hasan by the military or government.He hadn't broken laws yet. They could have kicked him out for his poor performance evaluations and monitored him very closely afterwards, but it seems we are limited as to what we can actively do, unless there is reasonable proof that he is a subversive. To me, that's what so frustrating about this.

  3. Gina, Bless your passionate soul, but afraid some of what you are advocating is uncontitutional. You need to propose a constitutional amendment that says we CAN discriminate on the basis of religion

  4. Alright, Dr. Rutledge. Constitutionality… Let me think about this a minute. Hmmmm…

    Okay. I've thought about it and have concluded that our Constitution prescribes for our government to protect and defend our borders, our country, and provide for the general welfare. It also gives us a First Amendment for protection of, among other things, freedom to practice ones “religion” without duress from the government. Now, what happens when a “religion” is actually a murderous Trojan horse of a vicious enemy of America? Hmmmm… See, here's the deal: Islam is a political ideology which masquerades as “religion.” It has nothing to do with any “god,” except Satan. Now, when one's religion commands that one must KILL nonbelievers of one's religion, and the people killed happen to be Americans here at home, then we have a national security problem, NOT a “protection of religion” problem according to our Constitution.

    If you want to defend these evil animals, these enemies of all that is true and good, and their “right” to “practice” their born-in-hell “religion,” you will find that you are quite unpopular in our country this week.

    Gina Miller

  5. Gina I was unaware that the United States could establish a 'religion' as an enemy, but I'll take your word for it.. With that in mind and taking a moderate estimate, what do you propose we do with the three million Islamic enemies that currently legally reside in this country ?

  6. Why not deport them?

    Do you moonlight for Media Matters, or are you just a natural antagonist of America, perhaps the product of a liberal college indoctrination center?

    If you do not see Islam as an enemy, not just to America, but pretty much to the entire civilized world, then there's not a thing on earth I can say to you, my friend.

    It's people like you who have, through the deadly ideology of liberalism and political correctness, brought our country to the brink of the abyss.

  7. “Why not deport them ? “

    Well, one of my colleagues and dear friends is of the Islam faith as are his wife and three daughters. As the Medical Examiner of our county he holds a very respected and trusted position is our community. The entire family is as peaceful, kind,moral and Americanized as you can imagine. I don't know, but just of hate the idea of my country making them give up everything and essentially be told at gunpoint that they must leave America solely because of their religion. I still remember something in the Constitution that allows us frredom to worship as we see fit.

    Oh, and I went to Texas Christian University.

  8. “Now, when one’s religion commands that one must KILL nonbelievers of one’s religion…”

    Gina, you seem to forget that your god once commanded the same thing:

    “If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant; and hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; and it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die” (Deuteronomy 17).

    Is that not a national security problem too?

  9. Sorry, Dr. Rutledge, my sarcasm was running over; I was being facetious when I said that. I know we can't “deport them.” But there are practical steps we ARE able to take. There are those we CAN deport, those here on visas, recent immigrants, etc., and we can cease all Middle-Eastern immigration. We can also crack down on mosques and places like “Islamburg.”

    Stop the enemy within; it could be done, if we only had the will to do so.

  10. And, by the way, freedom to “worship as we see fit,” provided for in the Constitution, does NOT INCLUDE the freedom to KILL PEOPLE AS PART OF YOUR RELIGION.

  11. I too feel your anger and frustration

  12. I believe we are at war with a politico-religious entity called Islam. Though not all Muslims are combatants, most are at least sympathetic to the goals of their Jihadist brothers. First we should deport all Muslims that are not US citizens. Next we should begin beefing up and enforcing laws against insurrection. When Muslims advocate or condone the violent overthrow of our constitutional government that is no longer a 1st Amendment issue. Certainly, when they act to implement these ideas, by financial support, hoarding of guns and weapons, or intimidation of law-abiding citizens, we should have ways to put an end to their activities and see to it that they are no longer a threat.

    Though not likely a direct quote, Abraham Lincoln is said to have remarked that the Constitution was never intended to be a suicide pact. Islamists have taken advantage of the liberal western traditions and used these against us. We are at war and we had better start acting like it or we'll see the demise of our great country. I really fear for my children and grandchildren and the world that we will be leaving for them if we don't act soon.

  13. One last thought. Since none of us believe that Islam or it's God is true , then it is just a man made concept, like the Greek mythologies and religions. The brain of man is capable of conceiving all sorts of abstract ideas and concepts. I believe all religions fall under that premise, which is why I look forward to the day when man gives up all these abstract concepts

  14. One hundred percent agree. A rational and reachable solution. Or at least a start

  15. Gina, out of the people I have encountered on this blog, you are perhaps the most ignorant and hate-filled of them all (and that's saying something). Do you even know a single Muslim?

  16. Yours is a specious argument, soccerphoenix, and easily refuted. The example of Deuteronomy 17: 2-7 is a command that the laws of the nation be obeyed, some of which were of a nature that the just punishment was death. Note that the Israelites are told to “enquire diligently,” i.e., investigate fully, to determine whether the charges are true and only then should punishment be meted out.

    This is much different that a homicidal Jihadist bent on killing any who do not accept the commands of a demented pedophile who came to power precisely by the same technique of killing all that refuse to bow to his moon god.

    To further the point, we can look at the subsequent verses in Deuteronomy 17, which make clear that what is being spoken of is jurisprudence, not murder:

    8 “If a matter arises which is too hard for you to judge, between degrees of guilt for bloodshed, between one judgment or another, or between one punishment or another, matters of controversy within your gates, then you shall arise and go up to the place which the LORD your God chooses. 9 And you shall come to the priests, the Levites, and to the judge there in those days, and inquire of them; they shall pronounce upon you the sentence of judgment.”

  17. Such a lengthy rationalization, which could have been avoided if your god had simply said, “It is wrong to kill another person because of his or her religion.”

  18. I can't tell if you are ignorant, stupid, duplicitous or just hateful, Alex. Some of all I suspect, judging from this as well as past comments at Dakota Voice.

  19. Dr. Theo,

    You are the one trying to rationalize when it is acceptable to kill someone on the basis of their religion, yet you call ME hateful. That's funny.

    And I'd prefer it if you used my screen name. That's the whole point of having one, after all. Thanks!

  20. I don't think you'll find anything that I've said that suggests I want to kill people simply because of their religious beliefs. The Biblical reference that you cited is a poor example, as I pointed out. The non-believers among the Israelites of that historic period were not exactly benign pacifists that simply held different beliefs. They engaged in activities that were destructive to the people that God had chosen to preserve His Word. We, as believing Christians and Jews, have no similar command in this day and age, but we are instructed to use the God-given authority of the sword to suppress evil that seeks to harm innocents.

    Screen names are useful and I'll be happy to use yours when you decide to chose one and stick with it, Alex. When someone posts comments on a site using differnet screen names, I can only conclude that that person is trying to deceive readers and the moderators into believing he is not someone that is previously known to us. Why would you do that, Alex? Are you trying to hide from the fact that you have been shown to be a hateful and uninformed troll?

  21. Why, thank you! I'll take that to mean that I am very intelligent and have a love for truth. Liberals have eyes that don't see, ears that don't hear, and minds that don't understand “Truth.” In fact, you see things as the opposite of what they really are. You are at the very least, deceived.

  22. I don't think you'll find anything that I've said that suggests I want to kill people simply because of their religious beliefs. The Biblical reference that you cited is a poor example, as I pointed out. The non-believers among the Israelites of that historic period were not exactly benign pacifists that simply held different beliefs. They engaged in activities that were destructive to the people that God had chosen to preserve His Word. We, as believing Christians and Jews, have no similar command in this day and age, but we are instructed to use the God-given authority of the sword to suppress evil that seeks to harm innocents.

    Screen names are useful and I'll be happy to use yours when you decide to chose one and stick with it, Alex. When someone posts comments on a site using differnet screen names, I can only conclude that that person is trying to deceive readers and the moderators into believing he is not someone that is previously known to us. Why would you do that, Alex? Are you trying to hide from the fact that you have been shown to be a hateful and uninformed troll?

  23. Why, thank you! I'll take that to mean that I am very intelligent and have a love for truth. Liberals have eyes that don't see, ears that don't hear, and minds that don't understand “Truth.” In fact, you see things as the opposite of what they really are. You are at the very least, deceived.