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Church Rejects Woman Who Decides to Obey God

childA couple of weeks ago I wrote about Abby Johnson, the woman who went from Planned Parenthood director to pro-lifer after viewing an ultrasound of a living child in the womb.

Now the Washington Times features an article which says that while her church welcomed her as a butcher of children, it has turned decidedly cool toward her now that she believes in protecting innocent human life created in the image of God.

Now she is facing a different kind of music at her parish, St. Francis Episcopal in nearby College Station, the home of Texas A&M University.

Whereas clergy and parishioners welcomed her as a Planned Parenthood employee, now they are buttonholing her after Sunday services.

“Now that I have taken this stand, some of the people there are not accepting of that,” she told The Washington Times. “People have told me they disagree with my choice. One of the things I’ve been told is that as Episcopalians, we embrace our differences and disagreements. While I agree with that, I am not sure I can go to a place where I don’t feel I am welcome.”

This is one of the great ironies of the Left: they love to sing the praises of “choice”…until you choose to disagree with them.  Then they are as intolerant as any bigot you could think of.

The article reports Johnson said that when she worked at Planned Parenthood, some churches weren’t very accepting of her work at Planned Parenthood.

she and her husband, Doug, “had been told by a couple of churches,” one being Baptist and the other nondenominational, “that because I worked at Planned Parenthood, we could not be members.”

I should make a clarification here that many non-Christians may not understand.  While I would urge Bible-believing churches to reach out in any way possible to someone like Johnson who is reaching out to them (and I believe most would), membership and attendance are two different states and matters.

An attender at a church is under no real obligation or expectation to live a life as the Bible says we should.  But when someone becomes a member of a church, it is more than reasonable to expect them to agree with and live by the major tenets of that faith and denomination.

You see, when someone says, “I’m a member of Church X,” they become a representative of that church even if they are not a staff member.  If a member of Church X is known in the community for working at a place that butchers children, then non-believers in a community develop the very reasonable impression that Church X believes butchering children is okay.  It is also reasonable that Church X, providing it adheres to the Bible, would not want the community to believe such a false message about what it believes.

Churches are instructed in the Bible to speak to a member who is openly and habitually doing something wrong, in an attempt to help them correct their behavior.  When such persons refuse to correct their behavior, churches are required to break fellowship with them and remove them from membership (Matthew 18:15-17 and 1 Corinthians 5). The church that does not employ church discipline with a member who openly and defiantly acts in ways contrary to Biblical teaching is itself in disobedience to God.

Another bitter irony in this story is that while Johnson was willing to participate in the destruction of innocent human life, created in the image of God (in contradiction to the Bible), she was made to feel welcome in this Episcopalian church.  Now that she recognizes the inestimable value of innocent human life and wants to live up to the Bible’s standard regarding human life, this apostate church  is turning a cold shoulder to her.

In Revelation chapters 1-3, Christ has some harsh (but justified) words for churches that turn their backs on God’s instructions.  In light of this account, in addition to Christ’s words about people (and churches) who lead people astray and into sin,  I sure wouldn’t want to be one of the staff members of this apostate church when they face judgment.

Not only condoning the slaughter of innocent children, but rejecting someone who would have the audacity to believe God when he says human life is sacred…Lord know I’m far from perfect, but I don’t want to be anywhere within ear-shot when the verdict comes down on that one.  It’s going to be ugly.


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14 Responses to “Church Rejects Woman Who Decides to Obey God”

  1. OK, this is one of those “what are they thinking?” moments. It's one thing to accept abortion if you're coming from a secular, life-is-not-sacred viewpoint. But this makes no sense at all.

    Non-Christians often come down on Christians for being “hypocrites.” Well, *this* is the kind of hypocrisy they *should* be the hardest on, but overlook because it has “Christians” conveniently being in agreement with them.

  2. My stand on organized religion is where I really make many people mad. I view many organized, so-called Christian religions as evil and deadly. The Bible does not endorse any kind of institutional religious denomination; on the contrary, it says that TRUE religion is looking after orphans and widows in their distress. That's pretty simple.

    When you look at these big, powerful mega-churches and ancient denominations, there are endless perversions of the Word of God in them. I know people will be enraged at my proclamation that one of the most deadly and deceiving religions is Catholicism. I have caught hell for saying that in other places, because it offends millions and millions of people. Catholic, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Anglican and so many other relgions rely on strange rituals and man-made traditions that I do not find endorsed in the Bible, though they twist and misinterpret Scripture to defend their practices.

    My point here is to say that it is not surprising that this Episcopal church, whose locations have made homosexual leaders acceptable, would embrace the killing of unborn babies. It's another deadly religion, as deadly as Islam.

    The Bible clearly states that MOST people will never seek the truth or find it. In the last days, deception is the order of the day. Gigantic numbers of people are deceived by false religions, and it's only going to get worse as the end draws near.

    I am not out to offend Catholics or Episcopalians. The time for mincing words is long over. My hope is to shake one person from his slumber so he will closely examine the tenets of his religion, and compare those tenets to what the Bible actually says. Seek the Truth, and you will find it. Do not be deceived. God is not mocked. On the last day, false religions will be shown for what they are – weapons designed in hell to lead many astray.

    Gina Miller

  3. Having been raised Catholic and attended Catholic schools through highschool, I think I know the Catholic position on most practices and doctrine. I received the Holy Spirit and eternal salvation when I was 49 years old and have been attending Southern Baptist churches since then. I am now a trustee, a deacon and Sunday school teacher.

    I am very aware of the wrong teaching and unsriptural practices that have become part of the Roman Church. As an outsider that sees the Baptist traditions from a perspective different from most Baptists, I can say that there is almost as much wrong teaching, misplaced traditions and unscriptural practices as are seen among Catholics. No denomination has cornered the market on false doctrine and it is incumbent on all Christians to study God's Word and be discerning in all things. Church services and fellowship are spiritually enriching and gratifying, but that is not what constitutes a Christian's faith and his relationship with Jesus Christ does not depend upon prayers said aloud by rote through years of repetition. In fact, any religion can become a false idol if we allow it.

    My point is not to question your Christian beliefs, Gina (and I have no reason to), but only want to make sure people realize that they must remain on guard at all times and that the fallen nature of man can poison every denomination. When we single out some groups for criticism there is a tendency to make that the standard to which we compare own beliefs (“well, we're certainly better than those Catholics”), when it is only the Bible that should be the standard of right and wrong.

  4. Harry, you seem to be making an assumption here (a rather igorant one) that I don't help feed the hungry or aide the sick…in addition to trying to be the salt and light Christ called me to be.

    I'm not big on tooting my own horn, but it might interest you to know that I've worked in homeless shelters, ministered to the homeless, worked in a soup kitchen to help feed the homeless, regularly visit and help the sick, and quite a bit more. Additionally, I give more of my personal income to charity than Barack Obama did–who makes several times as much as I do–until he beefed up his charitable contribution level during the year he campaigned for the presidency.

    You see, doing as Christ commanded and teaching the world about his truths doesn't absolve me from being obedient to his other commands.

    By the same token, feeding the hungry and aiding the sick doesn't absolve one of the responsiblity to counter the lies of a dark, evil world…or from avoiding those lies in my own life.

    I should also point out that BOTH Old Testaments and New Testaments are, in the words of the Apostle Paul, “God breathed” and “useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.” Remember, too, that Christ himself said in Matthew 5:17 that he did not come to do away with the Old Testament law of right and wrong, but to fulfill it.

    Important, too, is Paul's admonition in Romans 6 that God's grace is not an excuse to go on sinning. Failing (or worse, refusing) to warn someone against physical and spiritual dangers is not in any way “compassionate.” It is cowardly. It is disgraceful. It is sinful. But it is not “compassionate.”

    If you truly want to help the sick, I encourage you to do it yourself rather than trying to rob your neighbor in the form of taxes to force him to do it. Nowhere in the Bible will you find God instructing the government to do what he commanded people to do.

    Stop trying to avoid your personal responsibilities by peddling the idea that theft is acceptable and that government should force other people to do your job for you.

  5. I very much agree with you, Dr. Theo, and I was not trying to target one or two denominations, though I did mention a few. I meant the same thing you are saying. The Word of God is our standard, and we must judge all things according to it. The entire world is full of deception and lies meant to lead man astray.

  6. Wow… I’m getting a vision… God’s telling me that he wants you to sit on your a** and blog… He really doesn’t need your help to feed the hungry or aid the sick. He wants you to change the laws so the secular world will do His work thereby giving you more time to write more critical blogs.Maybe as an alternative view, when your judgment day comes, your God will ask you, “Why were YOU not helping those I already saved? Instead of helping the starving and cold family under the bridge, you spent your time trying to make a secular legal system do the work I wanted YOU to do. You spent your time trying to force the secular world to do MY work. Did you forget that the secular world is not my world?” You could say “But God, I wrote a blog… and was active in trying to change the LAW about abortions… and stem cell research… And don’t forget I preached to the sinning people.” Yes, I think you are truly clueless Bob… You preach OT law and completely (conveniently) forget about the compassion of the NT which did AWAY with the law. You just want more secular laws so you don’t have to get your own hands dirty.Well, at least you don’t support that health care idea… God forbid that we help heal the sick. We certainly don’t want that to be a law. To literal Hell with the living, save the unborn! Just keep preaching to the living so YOU can see how guilty they are.

  7. Bob I know this is asking a favor, but in our last discussion, you said that I left something out of Genesis 1:14 which was that the stars were TO MARK the seasons etc. The King James version clearly says the stars are FOR signs–nothing about 'to mark'. I am trying to learn a little about the Bible, believe it or not, and was wondering from which Bible version did you get that ? Then I agree, end of discussion. Thanks

  8. It still appears you left out something intentionally to alter the perception of the meaning of the passage, but I'll take you at your word.

    What the passage says in the KJV is

    And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years…

    Which still, even with the slight change in wording, still contextually indicates that the “signs” are to be signs of the passage of seasons, not mysterious astrological signs.

    BTW, the version I use most is the New International Version (NIV) which was translated in the 1970s I believe. The KJV was originally translated in 1611, and the English language has changed a LOT since then. It has been updated somewhat since then, but there are still differences between it and modern syntax.

    Wrapping up our brief off-topic discussion here, I'd recommend looking at http://www.biblegateway.com. You can read and compare 20 English versions there; not all of those translations are as reliable and diligent as the KJV, NIV, NAS, ESV and a few others, but they're there for the consideration. But the versions I just listed are the most reliable, with translation teams of something like 100 people each spanning many years of research, using a huge number of texts from both Europe and Asia Minor.

  9. I assure you it wasn't intentional and again, thanks

  10. Amen!

  11. My main passion deals with the “Pro-Baby” movement. A special thanks to
    Pro-Baby AmeriXans on MySpace.com for letting me know that “Pro-Baby” is a better phrase to use to describe our love for the unborn!!!

    My poem, “The Thoughts of the Unborn” is in one of my Blogs—Check it out!!!

    ===========================================================================

    Also, a special thanks to Abby Johnson, the ex-director of the Bryan Texas Planned Parenthood office on 29th Street:

    Abby Johnson now encourages thinking and loving individuals to place a special value on others who are (also humans made in the image of God) and in the same stage of development that “They were”!

    The thoughts that dance in the mind of humans, is conceived in their heart and hinges on the pivotal question that ushers in the undeserved “Death penalty” for the unborn; or the joyous excitement, anticipating the soon coming birth of a child.

    The question that answers the complex motive for a person's actions after conception is “Is the pregnancy and baby wanted or rejected by one or both parents (or families) of the child”?!!!

    And if most women-with-child was loved by the child's father,
    she would smile and happily say “No abortion” why bother.

    Ask God and the person you mated with to forgive you,
    forgive yourself and live the abundant life.

    Sincerely ProBaby,

    Arthur Trafford

  12. My main passion deals with the “Pro-Baby” movement. A special thanks to
    Pro-Baby AmeriXans on MySpace.com for letting me know that “Pro-Baby” is a better phrase to use to describe our love for the unborn!!!

    My poem, “The Thoughts of the Unborn” is in one of my Blogs—Check it out!!!

    ===========================================================================

    Also, a special thanks to Abby Johnson, the ex-director of the Bryan Texas Planned Parenthood office on 29th Street:

    Abby Johnson now encourages thinking and loving individuals to place a special value on others who are (also humans made in the image of God) and in the same stage of development that “They were”!

    The thoughts that dance in the mind of humans, is conceived in their heart and hinges on the pivotal question that ushers in the undeserved “Death penalty” for the unborn; or the joyous excitement, anticipating the soon coming birth of a child.

    The question that answers the complex motive for a person's actions after conception is “Is the pregnancy and baby wanted or rejected by one or both parents (or families) of the child”?!!!

    And if most women-with-child was loved by the child's father,
    she would smile and happily say “No abortion” why bother.

    Ask God and the person you mated with to forgive you,
    forgive yourself and live the abundant life.

    Sincerely ProBaby,

    Arthur Trafford