“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” – Samuel Adams

Mercy for the Terrorist: Death to Terri Schiavo

Protesters outside Terri Schiavo's hospice, March 27, 2005 (Credit: Dbenbenn)

Protesters outside Terri Schiavo's hospice, March 27, 2005 (Credit: Dbenbenn)

The Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation continues to move ahead in the fight to save victims from the “kill ‘em off” sector of our society.

This sector that includes people (and groups) from the judicial and healthcare systems, as well as those from the movement intent to insure (and force) everyone’s right-to-die and those who have fallen prey to the campaign to rid society of any deemed as defective and non-productive in our modern day world.

Terri Schindler Schiavo mysteriously collapsed on February 25, 1990. She was 26 years old.

Though Terri’s husband was heavily conflicted — being alone with her (a healthy young woman) when she collapsed and then being the beneficiary to an exceedingly large sum should she die, while all the while failing to fill out the required guardianship reports — he was allowed, through a flawed system, to move her into a death row of the innocent. He was allowed to start the process that would end up killing her off while the world looked on.

It doesn’t matter if Michael Schiavo was responsible or not for the original collapse of Terri — there were questions unanswered. Until those questions were fully answered in a satisfactory manner, he should not have been the decision-maker in Terri’s care — health or otherwise.

Even more reason to remove Michael Schiavo from the decision table was his involvement with another woman. An involvement that included living with and having children with her. He married her soon after Terri’s death.

The appearance of conflict, as briefly covered, should have been enough for the court to remove this man as guardian of the wife who stood in his way of initially inheriting nearly a million dollars and marrying the mother of his children.

It should have been, but it wasn’t.

Judge George Greer sentenced Terri Schindler Schiavo to death by starvation and dehydration.

The execution of Terri Schiavo took nearly fourteen (14) days to complete. It was a horrendous death that only fools would call peaceful and painless. Sadly, there were, and still are, many fools. Along with the fools come many ironies.

Waterboarding is the topic of the moment. The shouts of it being torture, wrong and an outrageous crime can be readily heard throughout the day. Where were these voices when Terri Schiavo was being tortured to death? Yes, tortured to death. There was no simulating of anything. She was actually starved and dehydrated to death as the world watched and the system shamefully failed.

The court ruled to end Terri’s life based on conflicted interest and conflicted testimony. Outside the testimony from those with conflicted interest, there was no testimony that suggested Terri would wish to die, especially a death by starvation and dehydration– A death that goes beyond any torture that any may have experienced as a result of waterboarding. But then, so selective are many of those who would shout against torture of a terrorist while condoning the torture-filled death sentence of Terri Schiavo.

Heaven forbid if a murderer suffered for three minutes, or a terrorist was tortured by simulation, but quite acceptable if an innocent young woman suffered excruciating pain for nearly 14 days? The irrational “reasoning” process that is necessary for this conflict of thought is frightening. Even more frightening is how many of those in power appear to be suffering from this very process.

The Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation founders know what it is to fight desperately to save an innocent family member from a flawed system and from the influences of a movement that has gone far beyond defending a person’s right to refuse care–to people being denied care. And it is in this knowing of what it is like that these founders continue in their efforts to help others win the battle they themselves so sadly lost.  Their efforts include but are not limited to educating the public on health care rights and what is really happening to many of our most vulnerable: the sick or disabled.

The foundation website informs readers about it’s radio program:

America’s Lifeline airs every Saturday at 3:00 PM ET on Talk Radio 860 WGUL in Tampa, Florida.

America?s Lifeline is also streamed worldwide via the internet at Talk Radio 860 WGUL. For those outside the Tampa area, simply click on the 860 WGUL TALK RADIO logo to LISTEN LIVE! to the program airing every Saturday at 3:00 PM ET!

What the website doesn’t say, but I do, is…

If the waterboarding of a terrorist is wrong — what might it be to “righteously” sentence an innocent to death by starvation and dehydration? In a rational world: beyond possible!

Carrie Hutchens is a former law enforcement officer and a freelance writer who is active in fighting against the death culture movement and the injustices within the judicial and law enforcement systems.


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82 Responses to “Mercy for the Terrorist: Death to Terri Schiavo”

  1. “Like Terri, I know the horror of starvation. My feeding tube was turned off for eight days after doctors gave me no hope fro recovery. We should applaud Terri’s family for continuing on after Terri’s death to defend the sacredness of life.” — Kate Adamson (Kate survived a devastating stroke and is now a highly acknowledged international speaker advocating for the disabled)

    They thought she wasn't aware of her surroundings either!

  2. Is It True?

    Is it true that the Schindlers made 4+Hours of videos of Terri Schiavo?

    Is it true that the Schindlers displayed to the public only the highly edited 4+minute of the 4+hours of videos?

    Is it true that the Schindlers made these highly edited videos to give a false display of Terri Schiavo’s condition? Also proving the Schindlers knew the true condition of Terri Schiavo for them to even make these edited videos.

    Is it true that the Schindlers’ overall purpose of these highly edited videos of Terri Schiavo was to incite sympathy, to generate donations and stir support?

    Is it true that the Schindlers made request for donations for their legal fees?

    Is it true that the Schindlers' legal representation was paid for by other rich foundations.

    Is it true that the Schindlers (Bob Sr., Mary, Bob Jr., and Suzanne) are working for the Foundations that was/is financed with the requested “Legal Fees” donations which is still providing all four of them their livelihoods and retirements.

    By requesting donations for one purpose (legal fees) and using these donations for another purposes (livelihoods and retirements) is a scam. It was a fraud on the persons that gave donations for the purpose of helping the Schindlers’ with their legal fees.

    I called it a fraud especially on the public and/or their donors.

    Everything the Schindlers state about Terri Schiavo’s condition is base on these edited 4+minutes of videos. Once the public realize that these videos were edited and staged to give a false display of Terri Schiavo's condition, The Schindlers' whole story line falls apart. The Pinellas County Medical Examiner’s autopsy report proves and disagrees with the Schindlers’ falsehoods about Terri Schiavo’s PVS.

    The Schindlers are attempting to re-write the History of the Terri Schiavo Tragedy to fit their story line (“The Schindler Script”).

    It is true that Terri Schaivo’s condition was Persistent Vegetative State (PVS).

  3. To Carrie and others who care,

    I strongly encourage you to read the following Law Document:

    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract

    This document conclusively proves that Terri's so-called wish to die was nothing than unrealiable trash.

    Snead does a superb job of analyzing the veracity of Terri's wishes.

    In fact, Snead actually does the analysis that court so errornously failed to do.

    Once you read this document, you will begin to understand….

    That Terri's death was a killing and the court committed Judicial Homocide.

  4. Walter, is it true that you are a friend of Michael's?

    Is it true that you spend a great deal of time on… is it Topix?

    Is it true that your wife is or was working for one of Michael's attorneys?

    Is it true that Felos was on the board of directors of the hospice that accepted Terri, even though the rule was that a person had to be terminal with only six months to live? Is it true that Felos didn't bother to share this with the court?

    Is it true that CBS or one of the stations put out the news of Terri's death and described the scene… but… whoops… Terri hadn't died yet? Who gave them such a press release in advance?

  5. To Carrie and others who care,

    I encourage you to listen to following audio interviews and clips that outline the ugly reality of the Schiavo case:

    1. http://www.centerforajustsociety.org/uploads/te
    An execellent interview of Ken Connor with John Sipos. He explains
    some of Terri's Law and the judicial problems with the Schiavo case.
    Rating is a 10.
    About 20 Mintes long.
    Dated January 29,2005.

    2. http://libsyn.com/media/commarts/NGOVCNeff.mp3
    Very Good interview by Chuck Neff in the media who studied the
    Schiavo case. Has a very distrubing story about his mother in
    hospice.
    Rating is a 9.
    Dated around March 18,2005
    Running Time – About 15 Minutes.

    http://mediaie.kfuoam.org/mp3/Issues5/Issues_Et
    Wesley Smith talks about the Legacy of Terri Schiavo after her death.
    Relays some very interesting facts.
    Rating is a 10.
    Dated April 14,2005.
    Running Time – About 20 Minutes

    http://www.christianradiomagazine.com/audio/crm
    David Gibbs talks about The Schiavo case on Christian Radio. He
    presents a good due process (fundamental fairness) argument.
    Rating is a 10.
    Dated February 12, 2006.
    Running Time – About 20 Minutes.

    http://www.ewtn.com/vondemand/audio/resolve.asp
    Bobby Schindler and Lawyer Michael Gaynor discuss Terri after she
    dies and the legalities and problems with the Schiavo case. Gaynor
    present an excellent Due process argument (fundemental fairness).
    Callers phone in. 1 hour long.
    Rating is a 10.
    Dated June 17,2005.
    Running Time – About 1 Hour.

  6. Kate Adamson was diagnosed as being locked-in, not PVS. Your last statement is misleading. She was diagnosed with PVS very early on, but that wasn’t the diagnosis when her tube feeds were stopped. There is a world of difference between these two very different altered neurologic states, LIS versus PVS. Her tube feeds were stopped because of a bowel problem — either an ileus or a mechanical obstruction. Once her bowel problem resolved her tube feeds were restarted.

    I went nearly ten days with no nutrition or hydration while in an ICU. I have no recollection of any pain or discomfort because I was unconscious the whole time.

  7. Kate Adamson was diagnosed as being locked-in, not PVS. Your last statement is misleading. She was diagnosed with PVS very early on, but that wasn’t the diagnosis when her tube feeds were stopped. There is a world of difference between these two very different altered neurologic states, LIS versus PVS. Her tube feeds were stopped because of a bowel problem — either an ileus or a mechanical obstruction. Once her bowel problem resolved her tube feeds were restarted.

    I went nearly ten days with no nutrition or hydration while in an ICU. I have no recollection of any pain or discomfort because I was unconscious the whole time.

  8. Carrie K Hutchens

    I have not heard about the CBS error before, it is not important. The other statements are true.
    There is a great amount of falsehoods by the Schindlers and their supporters.
    I and others challenge these falsehoods.

    Walter In FL

  9. Carrie K Hutchens

    I have not heard about the CBS error before, it is not important. The other statements are true.
    There is a great amount of falsehoods by the Schindlers and their supporters.
    I and others challenge these falsehoods.

    Walter In FL

  10. Carrie K Hutchens

    Terri Schiavo could see in 2003 but she had no idea of anything.
    Terri Schiavo’s persona was gone and medical machines were keeping her body alive. That was a condition Terri wish not to be in and it was her rights to be honored.

  11. Carrie K Hutchens

    Terri Schiavo could see in 2003 but she had no idea of anything.
    Terri Schiavo’s persona was gone and medical machines were keeping her body alive. That was a condition Terri wish not to be in and it was her rights to be honored.

  12. The Schindlers produced 4+ Hours of videos of Terri Schiavo which are in Pinellas County’s records.
    The Schindlers edited 4+ minutes of the 4+ Hours and released only the 4+ minutes to the public.
    If the public could see all of the 4+ hours, they would see the Schindlers were trying to give a false display of Terri Schiavo condition.

  13. The Schindlers produced 4+ Hours of videos of Terri Schiavo which are in Pinellas County’s records.
    The Schindlers edited 4+ minutes of the 4+ Hours and released only the 4+ minutes to the public.
    If the public could see all of the 4+ hours, they would see the Schindlers were trying to give a false display of Terri Schiavo condition.

  14. I was unaware of the CBS error.
    All the other questions are true.

    I and others challenge the falsehoods about the Terri Schiavo Tragedy on the Topix Terri Schiavo Forum.

    George Felos was on the board of directors long before his entering the Terri Schiavo case

    Terri Schiavo could see movment in 2003 but did not know what she was seeing (just stimuli reflex).

  15. I was unaware of the CBS error.
    All the other questions are true.

    I and others challenge the falsehoods about the Terri Schiavo Tragedy on the Topix Terri Schiavo Forum.

    George Felos was on the board of directors long before his entering the Terri Schiavo case

    Terri Schiavo could see movment in 2003 but did not know what she was seeing (just stimuli reflex).

  16. Tom
    This is not a legal document.

    It is a bias opinion written by Snead.

  17. Tom
    This is not a legal document.

    It is a bias opinion written by Snead.

  18. I do know from the early records in the case, that there may be possibility that Michael had abused Terri early in there marriage. Records indicate that shortly after Terri and Michael were married, Terri apparently consulted with an oropedic surgeon named Dr. Osher. Unfortunately, little or no information can be found on exactly what Terri consulted Dr. Osher for. When Michael was confronted with Terri seeing Dr. Osher, Michael became very squarrlely and excited. Michael became very evasive denying any knowledge of Terri's consult with Dr. Osher. Michael even went as far as to adamantly deny that He and Terri were even in Florida when Terri consulted Dr. Osher even though Michael had said many times that he couldn't remember dates and times very well. Addition, off the record conversations were held between attorneys over the Dr. Osher. I would love to know more about why Terri consulted Dr. Osher. Did Terri receive some injury and as abused woman tell a story to Dr. Osher to cover up? We may never know.

  19. “Not sure where you are reaching the conclusion that Dr. Cranford suggested that Ms. Schiavo was tracking a balloon. Dr. Cranston has consitently indicated that Ms. Schiavo lacked “visual tracking””

    Consistently, huh? Well, Aprica, I guess you missed his video, with him saying with his own mouth and voice that she was indeed tracking the balloon. There's no conclusion involved. It's a matter of fact that Cranford SAID IT! Now why do you think he SAID IT, if she wasn't?

    You're wrong on another point…

    It is not important to me whether Terri could see or not. She could have been doing like the blind do and following SOUND and SMELL and it would all amount to the same thing — she was aware and following directions!

  20. “Like Terri, I know the horror of starvation. My feeding tube was turned off for eight days after doctors gave me no hope fro recovery. We should applaud Terri’s family for continuing on after Terri’s death to defend the sacredness of life.” — Kate Adamson (Kate survived a devastating stroke and is now a highly acknowledged international speaker advocating for the disabled)

    They thought she wasn't aware of her surroundings either!

  21. Is It True?

    Is it true that the Schindlers made 4+Hours of videos of Terri Schiavo?

    Is it true that the Schindlers displayed to the public only the highly edited 4+minute of the 4+hours of videos?

    Is it true that the Schindlers made these highly edited videos to give a false display of Terri Schiavo’s condition? Also proving the Schindlers knew the true condition of Terri Schiavo for them to even make these edited videos.

    Is it true that the Schindlers’ overall purpose of these highly edited videos of Terri Schiavo was to incite sympathy, to generate donations and stir support?

    Is it true that the Schindlers made request for donations for their legal fees?

    Is it true that the Schindlers' legal representation was paid for by other rich foundations.

    Is it true that the Schindlers (Bob Sr., Mary, Bob Jr., and Suzanne) are working for the Foundations that was/is financed with the requested “Legal Fees” donations which is still providing all four of them their livelihoods and retirements.

    By requesting donations for one purpose (legal fees) and using these donations for another purposes (livelihoods and retirements) is a scam. It was a fraud on the persons that gave donations for the purpose of helping the Schindlers’ with their legal fees.

    I called it a fraud especially on the public and/or their donors.

    Everything the Schindlers state about Terri Schiavo’s condition is base on these edited 4+minutes of videos. Once the public realize that these videos were edited and staged to give a false display of Terri Schiavo's condition, The Schindlers' whole story line falls apart. The Pinellas County Medical Examiner’s autopsy report proves and disagrees with the Schindlers’ falsehoods about Terri Schiavo’s PVS.

    The Schindlers are attempting to re-write the History of the Terri Schiavo Tragedy to fit their story line (“The Schindler Script”).

    It is true that Terri Schaivo’s condition was Persistent Vegetative State (PVS).

  22. To Carrie and others who care,

    I strongly encourage you to read the following Law Document:

    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract

    This document conclusively proves that Terri's so-called wish to die was nothing than unrealiable trash.

    Snead does a superb job of analyzing the veracity of Terri's wishes.

    In fact, Snead actually does the analysis that court so errornously failed to do.

    Once you read this document, you will begin to understand….

    That Terri's death was a killing and the court committed Judicial Homocide.

  23. Walter, is it true that you are a friend of Michael's?

    Is it true that you spend a great deal of time on… is it Topix?

    Is it true that your wife is or was working for one of Michael's attorneys?

    Is it true that Felos was on the board of directors of the hospice that accepted Terri, even though the rule was that a person had to be terminal with only six months to live? Is it true that Felos didn't bother to share this with the court?

    Is it true that CBS or one of the stations put out the news of Terri's death and described the scene… but… whoops… Terri hadn't died yet? Who gave them such a press release in advance?

  24. To Carrie and others who care,

    I encourage you to listen to following audio interviews and clips that outline the ugly reality of the Schiavo case:

    1. http://www.centerforajustsociety.org/uploads/te
    An execellent interview of Ken Connor with John Sipos. He explains
    some of Terri's Law and the judicial problems with the Schiavo case.
    Rating is a 10.
    About 20 Mintes long.
    Dated January 29,2005.

    2. http://libsyn.com/media/commarts/NGOVCNeff.mp3
    Very Good interview by Chuck Neff in the media who studied the
    Schiavo case. Has a very distrubing story about his mother in
    hospice.
    Rating is a 9.
    Dated around March 18,2005
    Running Time – About 15 Minutes.

    http://mediaie.kfuoam.org/mp3/Issues5/Issues_Et
    Wesley Smith talks about the Legacy of Terri Schiavo after her death.
    Relays some very interesting facts.
    Rating is a 10.
    Dated April 14,2005.
    Running Time – About 20 Minutes

    http://www.christianradiomagazine.com/audio/crm
    David Gibbs talks about The Schiavo case on Christian Radio. He
    presents a good due process (fundamental fairness) argument.
    Rating is a 10.
    Dated February 12, 2006.
    Running Time – About 20 Minutes.

    http://www.ewtn.com/vondemand/audio/resolve.asp
    Bobby Schindler and Lawyer Michael Gaynor discuss Terri after she
    dies and the legalities and problems with the Schiavo case. Gaynor
    present an excellent Due process argument (fundemental fairness).
    Callers phone in. 1 hour long.
    Rating is a 10.
    Dated June 17,2005.
    Running Time – About 1 Hour.

  25. Snead writings are personal biased opinions based on religion and not related to legal matters or evidence. Same with David Gibbs III biased opinions.

  26. Snead writings are personal biased opinions based on religion and not related to legal matters or evidence. Same with David Gibbs III biased opinions.

  27. Have you read anything about the Estelle M. Browning case?

    George Felos represented the guardianship of Estelle M. Browning.
    Mrs. Browning had two living wills that the nursing home she was in would not honor her directives (“wishes”).

    Felos carried the case it up to the Supreme Court of Florida and won the case for Mrs. Browning, two years after her death.

    Summary of the Browning decision.

    The right to “choose or refuse medical treatment” and to make “all medical choices” is part of Florida’s constitutional right of privacy. All persons have this right whether competent or incompetent. Any treatment, including life prolonging procedures, can be withdrawn at any time, regardless of terminal illness, imminent death or incapacity. The withdrawal of life prolonging procedures, such as artificial feeding, does not cause death, it only allows death from natural causes. If a patient will die within 4 to 9 days after withdrawal of artificial feeding, then the condition is terminal and death is imminent. A patient who has orally or in writing expressed wishes for future health care can have those wishes implemented by a surrogate without judicial review; and a proxy appointed in writing may make all such decisions unless limited in the writing; in these two cases, any interested party who disagrees with the decision may take the matter to court. Written instructions are prima facie valid, oral ones must be proven by clear and convincing evidence.

    Being a persons directives can be WRITTEN or ORAL, what would make it odd that George Felos would ask Michael Schiavo and others if Terri Schiavo has ever made a comment or remark to them about her feeling (wishes) about her life and death issues. There was no written “Living Will”, so it would be a good question for a good experience lawyer (Browning case) to ask. Wouldn’t it?

    If you and others don’t like the fact there were witnesses that Terri Schiavo had made statements that she did not wish to be kept alive in a non-recoverable condition. This is a legal ORAL directive proven in a court of law by the testimony of the witnesses under oath. Snead avoids these facts.

  28. Have you read anything about the Estelle M. Browning case?

    George Felos represented the guardianship of Estelle M. Browning.
    Mrs. Browning had two living wills that the nursing home she was in would not honor her directives (“wishes”).

    Felos carried the case it up to the Supreme Court of Florida and won the case for Mrs. Browning, two years after her death.

    Summary of the Browning decision.

    The right to “choose or refuse medical treatment” and to make “all medical choices” is part of Florida’s constitutional right of privacy. All persons have this right whether competent or incompetent. Any treatment, including life prolonging procedures, can be withdrawn at any time, regardless of terminal illness, imminent death or incapacity. The withdrawal of life prolonging procedures, such as artificial feeding, does not cause death, it only allows death from natural causes. If a patient will die within 4 to 9 days after withdrawal of artificial feeding, then the condition is terminal and death is imminent. A patient who has orally or in writing expressed wishes for future health care can have those wishes implemented by a surrogate without judicial review; and a proxy appointed in writing may make all such decisions unless limited in the writing; in these two cases, any interested party who disagrees with the decision may take the matter to court. Written instructions are prima facie valid, oral ones must be proven by clear and convincing evidence.

    Being a persons directives can be WRITTEN or ORAL, what would make it odd that George Felos would ask Michael Schiavo and others if Terri Schiavo has ever made a comment or remark to them about her feeling (wishes) about her life and death issues. There was no written “Living Will”, so it would be a good question for a good experience lawyer (Browning case) to ask. Wouldn’t it?

    If you and others don’t like the fact there were witnesses that Terri Schiavo had made statements that she did not wish to be kept alive in a non-recoverable condition. This is a legal ORAL directive proven in a court of law by the testimony of the witnesses under oath. Snead avoids these facts.

  29. Doc Bob Ellis

    Where is your evidence or proof of what you are saying? (IMO, hearsay, or allegation)
    URL Please!

    With statements like this you could at least put “IMO” at the beginning of you statements.
    “IMO” = In My Opion.

    Terri’s diagnosis was necortical death — Persistent Vegetative State (PVS). As proven by the autopy.

    If you would like the URL to the Medical Examiner’s Autopy, I would gladly provide it.

  30. Carrie K. Hutchens

    Snead, after 4+ years can say anything he would like, but he was not one of the judges that made the rulings. Snead’s religious bias crosses into his knowledge of the Standing Laws.

    Carrie, I heard this site is bias and not a open forum. Too scrared to allow chellenges to others posts.
    Your censoring of my posts proves what people have been telling me. What are you scared of, the TRUE been told? I’m open to any challenges to everything I post because I post the truth (facts) which I can support with URLs of my sources.

    Carrie K. Hutchens, True Christian are not scared of the unbias TRUTHS.

  31. Is it true That this so-called news site is bias and censors posts that challenges your lies and falsehoods of the Terri Schiavo Tragedy?

    If you can not reply on this site. I invite you to a OPEN forum where the TRUTHS or FALSEHOODS can be challenged.

    http://www.topix.com/forum/news/terri-schiavo