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Homosexual Group Admits Health Risks of Homosexual Behavior

j0439599Though the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the Massachussetts Department of Public Health and numerous other sources have long compiled data showing the tremendous health risks associated with homosexual behavior, most homosexual activists vehemently deny these hazards and dismiss them as religious propaganda.

But now a Canadian pro-homosexual group called Canadian Rainbow Health Coalition has admitted these elevated health risks as a key element of the basis of a lawsuit they have filed against the Canadian government health service.

From LifeSiteNews:

  • The life expectancy for gay and bisexual men is 20 years less than the average Canadian man;
  • GLB people commit suicide at rates ranging from twice as often to almost 14 times more than the general population;
  • GLBs have smoking rates ranging from 1.3 to three times higher than average;
  • GLBs become alcoholics at a rate 1.4 to seven times higher than the general population;
  • GLBs use illicit drugs at a rate from 1.6 to 19 times higher than other Canadians;
  • GLBs experience depression at rates ranging from 1.8 to three times higher than average;
  • Homosexual men comprise 76% of AIDS cases and 45% of all new HIV infections;
  • GLB populations are at a higher risk of lung and liver cancer;
  • Homosexual and bisexual men suffer a higher rate of anal cancer than heterosexual men;
  • Lesbians report a higher rate of breast cancer;
  • GLBs experience verbal and physical abuse at a greater rate than most Canadians.

A copy of the complaint can be read in pdf here.

Of course, the new “out” to avoid facing the truth about the self-destructiveness of this behavior is the claim that all this is because of all the “homophobia” out there, and the lack of government loot being spent on them.

If the life expectancy of chronic drunks is less than that of the general population, can that diminished life expectancy be blamed on the fact that society has a negative image of drunks and refuses to accept their behavior as legitimate?

If the life expectancy of smokers is less than that of the general population, can that diminished life expectancy be blamed on the fact that society has a negative image of smokers and refuses to accept their behavior as legitimate?

If the life expectancy of prostitutes is less than that of the general population, can that diminished life expectancy be blamed on the fact that society has a negative image of prostitutes and refuses to accept their behavior as legitimate?

Logic, reason and common sense tell us that the same is true of homosexuals, and that whining to the contrary is an attempt to avoid the hard truth about a self-destructive lifestyle.

Rather than spend even more of the Canadian taxpayer’s hard-earned dollars trying to correct the consequences of self-destructive behavior, the wise thing to do would be for homosexuals to work to free themselves of their bondage to these dangerous practices.

The Canadian government might even find it a better use of tax dollars to mount a public service campaign–much life the public service campaigns which encourage people not to smoke, do drugs, etc.–warning people about the dangers of homosexual behavior and encouraging them to get out of the lifestyle.

If only such rational behavior could be expected from government…


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15 Responses to “Homosexual Group Admits Health Risks of Homosexual Behavior”

  1. Your examples of drunks, cigarettes, and prostitutes is a little off the mark.

    Alcohol and smoking can be shown to damage liver and lung tissue (among other things). These are directly responsible for harm and that can be shown through a direct relationship.

    Prostitution, in most cases, is a result of either necessity or being forced. I'm sure there are exceptions to this rule, but most of the things I've read from prostitutes (blogs and biographies) suggest that they are not happy with their decision but don't know how to change (just as one example). In any case, certainly prostitution is a risky behavior. But if you looked at the effects of numerous random sex partners in a science lab, I doubt there would be a direct result of receiving money for sex as causing anything negative. Indirect, perhaps, due to low self esteem or lack of an emotional connection.

    A closer link to homosexuals would be like saying “left handed people can not get married. Left handed people choose to be left handed. Being right handed is the way God intended because most people are right handed.” (early society did actually think left handed people were evil). So if you look at that 'society' that does not approve of the left handed life-style, I bet you'd find lots of alcoholic left handed people. Lots of suicidal left handed people. Lots of left handed people that engage in risky behavior.

    If you read the studies from the Netherlands that show a general acceptance of the gay lifestyle but also show increased suicide and suicidal thoughts in homosexuals, you will also see that regardless of the laws in place, homosexuals have a perceived discrimination and lack of acceptance. So while there may be legal protections, society is still not ready to fully accept. The point? Homosexuality might be a risk factor for depression, but it is an indirect link at best, i.e. being in a same sex relationship does not CAUSE depression. I'll also add that in the Netherlands studies, that many religious organizations quote all the time, do not show in increased rate of depression, suicide, or suicidal thoughts in lesbians.

    As far as anal cancer is concerned. HPV (the virus that can cause ovarian and anal cancer) is show to be higher in homosexual males because it is easier to spread HPV from a male to a partner (rather than from a female to a partner). This higher incidence of HPV is thought to be the primary reason there are more anal cancers in homosexual men. So there again, risky behavior and bad decisions lead to these effects. Being gay does not.

  2. So they'll go from denying the facts to admitting them, depending on what they think will get them their way?? Talk about showing true colors…

    I've been in a situation where I didn't want to face the truth and, in effect, went “LA LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!” So I can see why gays would get angry when told the unappealing truth about their dysfunction. If you want badly enough not to know something, you won't know it no matter how many times you hear it. But here we have a group of gays actually admitting to some of the facts, which means that they DID know them.

    Denial is really something; SELECTIVE denial even more so.

  3. Kevin, you are a perfect example of the denial I mentioned in this post. The connection between homosexual behavior and these elevated health risks have not only been documented by government agencies such as the CDC and the Massachussetts Department of Public Health, now homosexual groups are acknowledging them…and STILL you can't summon the courage to face the music.

    With 72% of male AIDS cases in the US tied to homosexual behavior (when according to a pro-homosexual HRC poll last year only 2.9% of the population is homosexual), and 76% in Canada, the evidence practically screams at the top of its lungs…yet sadly like ole' Gollum on Lord of the Rings, so many people like yourself caught up in homosexual behavior just clap your hands to your ears and chant, “Not listnin'. Not listnin'.”

    I'm glad you mentioned the data coming in from countries where homosexual “marriage” has been allowed for several years; this data actually reinforces my point that acceptance is not a legitimate factor on which to blame suicides, depression, substance abuse, etc. in the homosexual community. Despite the widespread and long-standing acceptance in these locations, homosexuals continue to suffer from these maladies at much higher rate. I suspect it has to do with the fact that such behavioral problems are common among any group of people who live in manners contrary to fundamental morality and natural behavior; the conscience is a hard critter to silence, even after years of beating it down, and that war with the conscience is usually reflected in depression-related expressions.

    You're “left handed” analogy is pretty weak, too–comparing a morally-neutral and health-neutral characteristic to one which is clearly immoral and unhealthy. That's a tired old homosexual excuse, implying homosexual behavior has a genetic cause—something that remains totally unproven despite decades of desperate attempts to find a convincing argument. That excuse has gotten so thin that even the politically correct APA is no longer even referring to genetics as a definitive cause of homosexual behavior.

    Well, you can keep sailing down that river in Egypt if you want, but you can't say you haven't been warned about the consequences.

  4. I’m not sure you understand the difference between a direct cause and a correlational link. The sources you cite, I have read. Most of the points that are made are indicative of sexual promiscuity and/or unprotected sex, not DIRECTLY caused by “gay sex”. Here’s an example. In your catholiceducation link, they list as a risk factor for the homosexual lifestyle “human waste” and go on to cite that “Some gay men sexualize human waste, including the medically dangerous practice of coprophilia, which means sexual contact with highly infectious fecal wastes”. No argument from me that playing around with or eating fecal matter is a dangerous thing. But is it only dangerous because they are gay? I’m straight and I’m pretty sure that if I started doing that I would put myself at risk for any number of illnesses. There are A LOT of straight people who do these things and I’m sure they are at risk as well. Bacteria in feces doesn’t care about the sexual orientation.

    It’s funny how you assume I’m gay.

    The AIDS epidemic in the gay community is a very serious issue. No argument there. But there is also an AIDS epidemic in many places in Africa. Why is that? One HUGE reason is unprotected sex. In Africa many women are raped by men with AIDS. These are all behavioral issues around inappropriate sexual practices and crimes. Two uninfected gay men will NEVER develop AIDS. Never. Now, if one of them goes outside the relationship and gets infected, well then we know what will happen. But that can be said of heterosexual couples as well. AIDS doesn’t care about your sexual orientation.

    It’s funny that you mention Gollum and “Not listnin” and then go to the next paragraph and miss my point about the articles from the Netherlands. Having read some of the related articles (the original in written in Dutch) it is clear that the homosexual population, specifically the male population, is more depressed. I think it is very telling that they perceive a lack of acceptance despite the laws. Perception is a very powerful thing. It can greatly affect a person’s happiness. Just because something is deemed ‘socially acceptable’ doesn’t mean it actually is. Look at abortion in the US. It’s been legal for decades now and yet there are parts of society that don’t accept it and cause a lot of stress for women in an already stressful situation. Perhaps it’s the same way in the Netherlands with gays.

    I don’t know, I think my left handed argument is pretty good. It’s not air-tight by any means, it’s just trying to see things a different way. It’s easily as good as your analogies. Ultimately, these are minor points. Analogies are just that. They aren’t perfect.

    I’m not implying that homosexuality is genetic at all. You’re assuming again. I don’t know what a gay person thinks or feels. I never chose to be right handed or straight, I just always have been. From what my gay friends have told me, they never recall choosing to be attracted to the same sex. They just always were. Fetal and neuro development is a very complex thing. Exposure to specific hormones at specific times determine who we are today. That, plus environment. The effects of environment on the development of a fetus starts when that person’s mother is born. And things really get fragile once the fetus starts to develop. It’s one reason why as much as 2/3 of ALL fertilized eggs never implant and thus never create a life. But I digress.

    I’ll go ahead and admit that I think there are many reasons why people are homosexual and I will include ‘choice’ in that category as well. Certainly, being gay is evolutionarily unwise no matter how ‘it’ comes to be.

    Another point I will concede is that of anal sex. The anus and rectum are certainly not designed for this type of activity. It wouldn’t surprise me if repeated trauma to the area places one at a higher risk for any number of issues. That and conflict with faith I think come the closest to being directly linkable to homosexuality. Then again, John Wesley died, terrified that he was out of God’s favor.

    Ok, I think I addressed most of the issues I wanted to. My main point is that these are risks that are correlated with homosexuality not caused by being homosexual. You are implying that being gay causes these things. And that’s ridiculous. I won’t deny that many struggle with family, faith, friends, etc… And, because of the decisions they make, put themselves at risk for health issues. I think this is what the gay community is acknowledging.

    Let me ask you a question. Hypothetically speaking, if two men found that they had a strong connection to one another, lived together, but never had any type of sexual contact, would that be wrong?

  5. I’m not sure you understand the difference between a direct cause and a correlational link. The sources you cite, I have read. Most of the points that are made are indicative of sexual promiscuity and/or unprotected sex, not DIRECTLY caused by “gay sex”. Here’s an example. In your catholiceducation link, they list as a risk factor for the homosexual lifestyle “human waste” and go on to cite that “Some gay men sexualize human waste, including the medically dangerous practice of coprophilia, which means sexual contact with highly infectious fecal wastes”. No argument from me that playing around with or eating fecal matter is a dangerous thing. But is it only dangerous because they are gay? I’m straight and I’m pretty sure that if I started doing that I would put myself at risk for any number of illnesses. There are A LOT of straight people who do these things and I’m sure they are at risk as well. Bacteria in feces doesn’t care about the sexual orientation.

    It’s funny how you assume I’m gay.

    The AIDS epidemic in the gay community is a very serious issue. No argument there. But there is also an AIDS epidemic in many places in Africa. Why is that? One HUGE reason is unprotected sex. In Africa many women are raped by men with AIDS. These are all behavioral issues around inappropriate sexual practices and crimes. Two uninfected gay men will NEVER develop AIDS. Never. Now, if one of them goes outside the relationship and gets infected, well then we know what will happen. But that can be said of heterosexual couples as well. AIDS doesn’t care about your sexual orientation.

    It’s funny that you mention Gollum and “Not listnin” and then go to the next paragraph and miss my point about the articles from the Netherlands. Having read some of the related articles (the original in written in Dutch) it is clear that the homosexual population, specifically the male population, is more depressed. I think it is very telling that they perceive a lack of acceptance despite the laws. Perception is a very powerful thing. It can greatly affect a person’s happiness. Just because something is deemed ‘socially acceptable’ doesn’t mean it actually is. Look at abortion in the US. It’s been legal for decades now and yet there are parts of society that don’t accept it and cause a lot of stress for women in an already stressful situation. Perhaps it’s the same way in the Netherlands with gays.

    I don’t know, I think my left handed argument is pretty good. It’s not air-tight by any means, it’s just trying to see things a different way. It’s easily as good as your analogies. Ultimately, these are minor points. Analogies are just that. They aren’t perfect.

    I’m not implying that homosexuality is genetic at all. You’re assuming again. I don’t know what a gay person thinks or feels. I never chose to be right handed or straight, I just always have been. From what my gay friends have told me, they never recall choosing to be attracted to the same sex. They just always were. Fetal and neuro development is a very complex thing. Exposure to specific hormones at specific times determine who we are today. That, plus environment. The effects of environment on the development of a fetus starts when that person’s mother is born. And things really get fragile once the fetus starts to develop. It’s one reason why as much as 2/3 of ALL fertilized eggs never implant and thus never create a life. But I digress.

    I’ll go ahead and admit that I think there are many reasons why people are homosexual and I will include ‘choice’ in that category as well. Certainly, being gay is evolutionarily unwise no matter how ‘it’ comes to be.

    Another point I will concede is that of anal sex. The anus and rectum are certainly not designed for this type of activity. It wouldn’t surprise me if repeated trauma to the area places one at a higher risk for any number of issues. That and conflict with faith I think come the closest to being directly linkable to homosexuality. Then again, John Wesley died, terrified that he was out of God’s favor.

    Ok, I think I addressed most of the issues I wanted to. My main point is that these are risks that are correlated with homosexuality not caused by being homosexual. You are implying that being gay causes these things. And that’s ridiculous. I won’t deny that many struggle with family, faith, friends, etc… And, because of the decisions they make, put themselves at risk for health issues. I think this is what the gay community is acknowledging.

    Let me ask you a question. Hypothetically speaking, if two men found that they had a strong connection to one another, lived together, but never had any type of sexual contact, would that be wrong?

  6. I'm quite sure we will hear much the same from our own domestic deviates once Mr. Obama's national health care is in place.

  7. I just came across a statement on another site that sums up a lot of what I see in discussions like these. Here it is, slightly paraphrased.

    Regarding people who dispute the Christian viewpoint: In most cases you cannot reason with them on a given issue even from a scientific point of view. It is clear that these are volitional issues for them and they're not at all engaged in an intellectual pursuit of truth. In many cases they are attempting to rationalize some immoral lifestyle and Christian standards happen to step on their toes.

  8. Well said!

    I keep trying the intellectual approach, though. You never know when someone might be at that point in their life when circumstances rip the blinders off and prepare them to receive the truth. (I reached that point with my drinking and carousing several years ago, so I know it happens)

  9. Yes, Lauren, I was pretty sure you would use that as an excuse, which is why I took the time to debunk it. Of course, debunking only makes an impression on rational people.

    I see that the fact that human beings have a free will and, unlike mindless animals, can exercise moral and behavioral choice was also lost on you; how sad that you seem to think homosexuals are slaves to their impulses. Carrie Prejean's pastor, Miles McPherson, recently debunked the fallacious racial assertion often employed by homosexual activists to excuse their behavior: “I know a lot of people who used to be gay; I don’t know anybody who used to be black.” Indeed.

    You should quit trying to excuse the immoral and self-destructive behavior with flimsy protests, stop blaming those who try to help them get a grip on their behavior and try to change it, and display a more mature attitude. Mature people face reality head-on and try to deal with their deficiencies; immature people waste a lot of energy trying to excuse them and avoid dealing with them.

  10. Homosexuality isn't “who someone is.” It's something that gets in the way of who someone is, and it's not unique — everyone has to deal with something that does that.

    And the depression that homosexuals feel goes WAY beyond being a reaction to the treatment they've gotten. Even without that treatment, the inner conflict they feel is horrendous. Something is seriously wrong, and deep down they know it, but dealing with it rightly (if they even know how) involves more than they want to face.

  11. Um… I'm pretty sure increased rates of depression, drug use and suicide are a result of homophobia. Did you even read what you wrote? Surely psychological torture, from your family and best friends, would make someone depressed.
    You also can't compare homosexuals to drunkards and the like. They didn't choose to be homosexuals, unlike prostitutes. You could make a lot of these arguments for black people. Do you think that being born a black person is wrong because they live in poverty?
    Instead of trying to reach out to people in need with education we should obviously take the stance that they are evil and immoral and tell gay teenagers to live a life of celibacy and deny who they are. A lot of times, that's why they commit suicide. Atleast you would have one fewer thing to complain regarding your taxes.

  12. I just came across a statement on another site that sums up a lot of what I see in discussions like these. Here it is, slightly paraphrased.

    Regarding people who dispute the Christian viewpoint: In most cases you cannot reason with them on a given issue even from a scientific point of view. It is clear that these are volitional issues for them and they're not at all engaged in an intellectual pursuit of truth. In many cases they are attempting to rationalize some immoral lifestyle and Christian standards happen to step on their toes.

  13. Well said!

    I keep trying the intellectual approach, though. You never know when someone might be at that point in their life when circumstances rip the blinders off and prepare them to receive the truth. (I reached that point with my drinking and carousing several years ago, so I know it happens)

  14. Yes, Lauren, I was pretty sure you would use that as an excuse, which is why I took the time to debunk it. Of course, debunking only makes an impression on rational people.

    I see that the fact that human beings have a free will and, unlike mindless animals, can exercise moral and behavioral choice was also lost on you; how sad that you seem to think homosexuals are slaves to their impulses. Carrie Prejean's pastor, Miles McPherson, recently debunked the fallacious racial assertion often employed by homosexual activists to excuse their behavior: “I know a lot of people who used to be gay; I don’t know anybody who used to be black.” Indeed.

    You should quit trying to excuse the immoral and self-destructive behavior with flimsy protests, stop blaming those who try to help them get a grip on their behavior and try to change it, and display a more mature attitude. Mature people face reality head-on and try to deal with their deficiencies; immature people waste a lot of energy trying to excuse them and avoid dealing with them.

  15. Homosexuality isn't “who someone is.” It's something that gets in the way of who someone is, and it's not unique — everyone has to deal with something that does that.

    And the depression that homosexuals feel goes WAY beyond being a reaction to the treatment they've gotten. Even without that treatment, the inner conflict they feel is horrendous. Something is seriously wrong, and deep down they know it, but dealing with it rightly (if they even know how) involves more than they want to face.